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I think the difference is that r/politics doesnt actually ban you for posting something conservative, its just the users deciding they dont like it. I dont use it either way due to their horrible link rules, but there is definitely a difference in my opinion.
You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.
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I think you're missing the point. /r/conservative censoring views or users is just fine. They can define the norms of their own community and enforce them. Just don't hypocritically declare that other people can't also do the same. That's the point here. The hypocrisy.
If you read messages from the moderators, its normally not about censoring, it's more about keeping up with moderating content. That sub is heavily brigaded (I saw some based that was at 17% upvote). And any sub that has toxic comments on it will be removed by the admins. Going flare only makes their job way easier.
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Have you ever been to /r/politics? It's a groupthink circle jerk. The difference, of course, is that /r/conservative is explicitly defined as a conservative community while /r/politics implies they are some sort of neutral community which they most certainly are not. At any rate, finding a diverse community of ideological people coming together to discuss politics with intellectual fervor is rather difficult these da…
/r/moderatepolitics is pretty reasonable though the idea of "moderate" is more about speech than views.
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Agreed. I will admit that it's draining, talking to one user who keeps moving the goal-posts. And I will then say that I think it's their intention to drain people like me. So I try to shrug it off and keep refuting arguments with the evidence they pretend they will be convinced by.
As one (non-American) lurker who is reading this thread to try and get a handle on just what the hell is going on over there, thank you for putting the energy in, and please don't give up. It's clear that you are arguing in good faith and the other person who keeps moving the goalposts and demanding more proof is not, and moreover it's very enlightening to see this scenarios played out nearly identically whenever I l…
>In a press release announcing the decision, Twilio revealed which services Parler was using. This information allowed hackers to deduct that it was possible to create users and verified accounts without actual verification. >With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allow…
Yea, there's no reason 70TB of downloaded data and millions of user accts (with each requiring an additional attack iteration) were needed to prove a security weakness. Let alone the creation of a coordinated, decentralized network of machines to exploit the attack and maximize data extraction. "Security Researchers" The doublespeak is getting maddening.
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This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...
Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...
> Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease. I don't give a damn about Parler or USA politics. The troubling thing here is how the security underpinnings of an entire platform like Parler can be screwed over by third-party SaaS provider. The fact that the platform contained some "bad actors" is only a distraction. This is the real issue, or one of them.
News flash: Twilio doesn't control who gets in, just instead of returning ack/nack, they simply were unavailable.
The onus of what to do in this case is entirely on Parler who foolishly decided to default to fail-open (presumably because Twilio being down might impact their bottom line or adoption).
If that's a "real issue" then blame the ones who implemented this service for Parler.
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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...
Have you ever been to /r/politics? It's a groupthink circle jerk. The difference, of course, is that /r/conservative is explicitly defined as a conservative community while /r/politics implies they are some sort of neutral community which they most certainly are not. At any rate, finding a diverse community of ideological people coming together to discuss politics with intellectual fervor is rather difficult these da…
> Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease. I don't give a damn about Parler or USA politics. The troubling thing here is how the security underpinnings of an entire platform like Parler can be screwed over by third-party SaaS provider. The fact that the platform contained some "bad actors" is only a distraction. This is the real issue, or one of them.
> The troubling thing here is how the security underpinnings of an entire platform like Parler can be screwed over by third-party SaaS provider. News flash: Twilio doesn't control who gets in, just instead of returning ack/nack, they simply were unavailable. The onus of what to do in this case is entirely on Parler who foolishly decided to default to fail-open (presumably because Twilio being down might impact their…
Could just that be an integration bug? Things failed open because someone didn't code, or else test that case?
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Parler is banning those posts as well: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/politics/parler-lin-wood-... The point is that there are bad actors and bad voices across these platforms, including those that are "okay" like Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter.
But they aren't. You can go there right now and find posts calling for violence. They have no automated system and have no plans to implement one which is why they were kicked off AWS. From the AWS letter they were kind enough to post: >Recently, we’ve seen a steady increase in this violent content on your website, all of which violates our terms. It’s clear that Parler does not have an effective process to comply wi…