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My Resignation from the Intercept
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Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#852In my mind, a media organization censoring a story that could aid Trump just days before the election is acting for the greater social good. I don't feel that optimizing for Greenwald's personal value system at this particular time would be the right tradeoff for America as a whole. Greenwald having the satisfaction of doing the right thing while the rest of us endure the rule of a strong man hell-bent on becoming Am…
Your opinion is respectable compared to the excuses we hear elsewhere and I would agree.
I think the hit on Bidens family members is beyond good taste, but I also think that journalism failed on a wide front in recent times.
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#853It seems impossible to hold a strong opinion on this without reading the article, and in particular, seeing how it is sourced. The elephant in the room (which Greenwald barely acknowledges in this essay) is that many mainstream news organizations have concluded that the evidence for this story was too weak to publish, and some believe it was fabricated by Russian intelligence. If Greenwald has evidence to the contrar…
Does it have to be fabricated by russian intelligence? Why not just Trumps campaign hoping to do another "But Hilary's emails!"
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#854Didn't Fox news reject it too? (Apart from the twat who's turning himself orange)"
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The Economist is quickly losing that reputation. I cancelled my subscription. The FT is still pretty good, though they shy away from anything critical of powerful corporations/individuals.
You can choose which bias to read, but you can't read unbiased news. If you think your news is unbiased, then it's the most dangerous kind of pandering.
being unbiased is not something you can be, it is something you can strive towards.
Biases are inescapable, but there is no need to be fatalist about it.
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#856Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you be a bit more specific on what you believe to be so important/surprising/relevant about this story that would make an entire journalistic career? What is the story that is not being told, and actively being suppressed? I have been following this quite closely and can't see it.
Did you watch the Tony Babulinksi interview with Tucker Carlson? It shows that Joe Biden had an ownership stake in and was directly involved with his son's company that received a 5-10 million forgivable loan from a top member of the Chinese Communist party. This directly contradicts claims Joe Biden has made throughout his campaign and at the last debate.
Tucker Carlson ... the man who lost the important document in the world ... who claimed in his defense that no one should take his TV show seriously ... that Tucker Carlson?
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#858Earlier quoted context omitted.
Glenn Greenwald is a Pulitzer prize winning journalist. He broke the Snowden story--another sensational-sounding scoop which likely sounded like total bullshit at first. Is it possible that Mr. Greenwald is a better judge of whether or not there is a story here?
I think saying he brokenthe stort is a bit of a stretch. Didn’t Snowden himself contact journalists? Snowden was tightly in contact with these journalists and showed them undoubtable proof that he did indeed work with the NSA. This story as I understand it is not even close to the level of verification that the Snowden story had.
At this point I would believe many outlets would not have published the Snowden docs because of editorial concerns. Probably because they have friends in Washington.
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WSJ has pretty biased opinion section though where they have almost no standards.
The great thing about biased opinion in a financial newspaper is that if you trade based on that opinion, chances are you'll lose money. From 2008 through 2016, WSJ opinion hammered on the supposed fiscal recklessness of the US federal government, warned that inflation and interest rates would skyrocket, and fretted about bond vigilantes. If you traded on this opinion and shorted long-term bonds, you would have lost…
Fortunately, it's likely that they'll again have a chance to start harping on fiscal recklessness, starting on January 21st, 2021.
Re: My Resignation from the Intercept
#860Earlier quoted context omitted.
Glenn Greenwald is a Pulitzer prize winning journalist. He broke the Snowden story--another sensational-sounding scoop which likely sounded like total bullshit at first. Is it possible that Mr. Greenwald is a better judge of whether or not there is a story here?
It's also possible he's a once great journalist who has gone off the rails. Which seems likely given the fact that the editors at a publication he founded refused to publish this piece.
The big problem for me is he does not set the context for the allegations, that the US is about to go to a critical and fiercely-contested election, last time there were all kinds of manipulations, and the role he
s set on playing right in the last few days is analogous to that of Comey v2 and the laptop is "the emails".
Without the context, it's not being given to the reader to judge why this is a story, the real provonance of the maguffin-laptop, if it really has any impact in the Biden vs Trump question or is just noise...