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Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by krapp »

salawat wrote: post #709
krapp wrote: post #656

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For what it's worth I think the right thing happened to him for possibly the wrong reason, and the community around him is as much to blame as he for enabling the damage he's done for as long as they did. If not for that whole debacle of an email conversation being leaked and made public, he would still be in a position of authority and still be normalizing the acceptance of behavior like his in tech culture. There s…

What makes you think that there's only been a tweet's worth of text on the matter? Furthermore, why should the movement he spearheaded suffer because others can't be bothered to try to understand a brilliant, eccentric, neurodivergent individual? Frankly speaking, I think most of the "normal mainstream" that condemned Stallman without even bothering to check up on and verify the facts of the accusations made against…

>What makes you think that there's only been a tweet's worth of text on the matter? Furthermore, why should the movement he spearheaded suffer because others can't be bothered to try to understand a brilliant, eccentric, neurodivergent individual?

If there were anything else, fanboys like you wouldn't hesitate to mention it every time you want to pull the "autism sympathy" card to make anyone who's been creeped out and offended by his behavior out to be " easily manipulated, savage, and unstable individuals" who can't comprehend the tragic, broken genius who's too good for this world.

The movement will be fine. The movement doesn't need him, and if it does, it's not a movement, it's a cult.

>I'd take 100 more people just like him with all the inherent quirks than any of the mob who rushed to condemn him without even so much as getting to know him.

Yes, well, you can have your hundred quirky middle aged pedophile apologists, as society seems to have enough to go around. I'll be satisfied when they're kept away from positions of authority and their behavior stops being defended by people around them. Just be sure to burn your sheets after they stay over.

Jesus Christ, get some perspective.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by ernst_klim »

oscargrouch wrote: post #535
ernst_klim wrote: post #435

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> We allow everyone to drive, use knives Ah, these are pretty simple things. We don't allow to sell any drugs, or some drugs without prescription, because drugs are hard and require education. So do computers.

The big question here is one simple thing: property. Imagine someone selling you a house and despite that you think you own the house the seller defines what things you can or cannot have in your own house, and even the ones he let you have, you must buy through them (so they can get a tax and force control) and if suddenly they are not ok with that anymore, it can simply vanish from your home. "Hey look, you cant ha…

> Imagine someone selling you a house and despite that you think you own the house the seller defines what things you can or cannot have in your own house

That's exactly like housing in developed world works, lol. When you buy a flat in Germany, you implicitly agree on a huge set of rules.

No one would allow you to buy a flat and turn it into a brothel or a disorderly house, or even run a pretty legal business in it) And many have additional rules, like not playing piano too loud.

But your analogy is wrong. Apple doesn't prohibit you to do something with your phone, they regulate the service they provide to you on a constant basis. Following your analogy if you've bought a flat, nobody is obliged to deliver food to you, especially when some food vendors do not comply with delivery's rules.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by arvinsim »

kalleboo wrote: post #780
0x402DF854 wrote: post #23

From a preliminary statement of Epic's motion: > Just over two weeks ago, Apple’s CEO Tim Cook was asked during a Congressional hearing whether Apple has “ever retaliated against or disadvantaged a developer who went public about their frustrations with the App Store”. Mr. Cook testified, “We do not retaliate or bully people. It’s strongly against our company culture.”

I'm not at all on Apple's side in the App Store battle, but on this point, Apple is still consistent. Anyone breaking the App Store rules this blatantly would have their developer account terminated, wether they went public or not.

It's not consistent at all. App Store rules are basically whatever Apple deems it to be. Why do you think Amazon, Netflix, et al can get away with some "violations" while small developers cannot?

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by krapp »

arvinsim wrote: post #756
krapp wrote: post #611

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Stop caring about pretend internet points.

Unlike Reddit, HN actually makes downvoted posts unreadable(unless you go to the pain of highlighting the text or changing the CSS).

Yeah, but you still shouldn't care. There's nothing you can do about it, just decide if it's worth taking the hit to say what you want to say.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by manquer »

nomel wrote: post #782
victords wrote: post #624

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It’s still retaliation. No way around that.

Some would consider this enforcement, which is not the same as retaliation.

How so ? They are pulling access to all platforms including desktop, also unreal is sdk/library used by ton of third parties , all of them are impacted too

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by manquer »

danudey wrote: post #221
coldpie wrote: post #113

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It's all private, of course, but they're all generally in the 30% ballpark. There may be lower rates for big clients, but there's no way for us to know that. https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/08/as-epic-attacks-apple...

In other words, Apple and Google are bad for taking a 30% cut, but Sony and Microsoft are not bad for taking a 30% cut plus having a (reportedly) vastly more onerous set of policies than Apple has.

It is not fixed , depending on how large you are MS or Sony will pay you to launch on their store . There is volume discounts , AAA does not pay indie rates

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Post by krapp »

Supermancho wrote: post #784
eanzenberg wrote: post #734

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Its not surprising that elites are for sex with children. We see that in 2020, too.

The consequence of power is such that it emboldens an individual to believe that limits on themeselves, are a moral wrong. The common knowledge acceptance of sexually deviant debauchery, has been pervasive across time (Caligula to Epstein). It is much harder to expose, with the extreme wealth disparity. I'd bet you have to be really sloppy nowadays to get caught.

If only it were possible to expose the behavior of such people through some public channel and then use collective action and social pressure to force some degree of consequence on them.

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Post by neop1x »

fermienrico wrote: post #480
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #468

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Myself. If not for IME, I could have a computer under my control, running software guaranteed to be free from the Trusting Trust attack, right now .

I respectfully disagree in my case. I don't consider myself a security expert at anything, especially at computers. This is probably 99.999% of the Apple customers. People like yourself can probably manage their own security, have a secure NAS, multiple firewalls, etc. Do you see it from the perspective of average Joe (or me)?

And what about giving people choice? Androids often come with locked bootloader and users can unlock it. Unlocking permanently deletes all user data. Apple is not giving any such choice!

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Post by neop1x »

qwert12345887 wrote: post #663
fermienrico wrote: post #489

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Right now, if I was running some open source OS on an open source hardware, with random 3rd party unverified apps, etc. - I would have no confidence in myself to keep that thing secure. I agree that things like openssh can be more secure because there is a huge number of individuals and corporations using it, there are a lot of eyes on it. It is open source and secure. That's not the same as something as big as an iP…

For some reason a lot dev's cannot seem to comprehend that a lot of people(Including myself) are not capable/wish to maintain/keep up with security. I rather use my brain cycles for something else. This is compounded for people who have no interest in tech but rather just want to use them to perform certain tasks. Are some of practices unfair sometimes to a small subset of companies/developers. Definitely yes, But wh…

But there could be a switch to allow installing apps from untrusted sources" default off. It's sad that people are so ignorant and gave apple so much power. :(

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Post by neop1x »

kabes wrote: post #825
LdSGSgvupDV wrote: post #812

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Also, this is true for windows OS. Once you installed it, the computer would not belong to you. They would force updating, updating, and updating. Even if you were in meeting, that speaker stopped the talk and went back to find another computer. It is ridiculous. Nowadays, physician could do a surgery in remote. How about during operation there is an update.

No they won't. You can configure windows out-of-the-box to completely disable updates (it won't even check to see if there's updates). And there's all kinds of settings in-between.

By editing 3 places in Regedit manually because disabling Update Medic in Services says "access is denied" despite being an admin account. Yes, you totally can. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59077619/how-to-disable-...
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