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Re: The new MacBook

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

nsxwolf wrote: post #561
SiVal wrote: post #509

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you can't really tell how well software is working when looking at the device edge-on, and that's apparently the way Apple looks at them most of the time. I mean this more metaphorically than literally, but I'm so tired of complaints about the ridiculously primitive Finder being met with, "the edge of the iMac now appears even thinner, now that we've repositioned formerly convenient connectors and such into a…

Curious - what do Finder complainers consider the gold standard of file browsers that Finder should aspire to be? I do most of my file management at the command line so I don't experience the pain of Finder very often, and I've generally been able to get Finder to do what I want without much fuss. Windows Explorer is, to me, a painful experience (but its 1980s DOS command line is so much worse) I've found the various…

What could your problem with Windows Explorer possibly be? It is generally considered to be the gold standard as far as I know.

It's far better more robust than Finder, it's got a much more powerful plugin environment and the keyboard acceleration actually makes sense, unlike Finder.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by supercoder »

beedogs wrote: post #705

Wow, so a $1300 laptop with no USB ports? Why does Apple keep making their new products worse -- less features but subjectively more "beautiful" -- than the ones before? Somewhere in the attic at One Infinite Loop, is there a painting of Steve Jobs that slowly gets younger as time passes?

It has one USB port.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

kalleboo wrote: post #796
hrabago wrote: post #576

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also curious - what about Windows Explorer makes it a painful experience? I learned how to use computers using DOS/Windows and it's what my idea of "correct" is. I'm curious about the other perspective.

I haven't used Windows in a while so maybe these are fixed now. * Directories are sorted separately as if they're some mystical entity that can't be mixed with files. Makes navigating by typing a PITA. * List views can't show or sort by the size of directories. * No spring-loaded folders makes drag and drop a huge PITA. * I find the disclosure triangles to view multiple subdirectories in a single window extremely use…

I'd bet a month's pay that the hooks are at least there in Explorer to let you do all of those things though.

Apple usually doesn't let you customize anything. That's why I can have things like Tortoise Git/Hg/SVN and Mac users cannot.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by mateuszf »

EpicEng wrote: post #824
nsxwolf wrote: post #561

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious - what do Finder complainers consider the gold standard of file browsers that Finder should aspire to be? I do most of my file management at the command line so I don't experience the pain of Finder very often, and I've generally been able to get Finder to do what I want without much fuss. Windows Explorer is, to me, a painful experience (but its 1980s DOS command line is so much worse) I've found the various…

I don't know about perfection, but I know this; Explorer is, imo, more usable. Seriously. I can Windows+D, start typing, tab to autocomplete, and be in the folder I want in a couple of seconds. I can set focus in the window and start typing to quickly get to the file/directory I want, press enter, repeat. In finder I can type to filter... but I have to press the arrow button to move the next... column (column? WTF?).…

Cmd+shift+g in finder also has autocomplete.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by banachtarski »

gcr wrote: post #691
banachtarski wrote: post #608

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenGL compatibility is still 4.1... I like linux, I like Apple hardware, but as a graphics/game programmer, I find developing native OSX applications to be a miserable process.

Intel integrated graphics on bleeding edge Arch Linux here. I'm stuck at OpenGL 3.3. I can only use shader language GLSL 1.30. And people say Intel has the best OpenGL support... :) Or maybe nvidia fares better?

With https://01.org/linuxgraphics/ are you able to use OpenGL ES 3 at least? Should have better shader model support.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by dgorges »

paradite wrote: post #828
thomasfoster96 wrote: post #779

I'm currently looking for a new laptop, which will probably be a Mac, given I'm not familiar with using Linux nor have I liked using Windows lately. Looking at the pricing for this, I can't see much of a reason for why I'd get this over a Macbook Air or Macbook Pro w/ Retina. Using Australian prices - This - $1799 11" Air - $1249 13" Air - $1399 13" Retina - $1799 (I've seen $1599 in authorised reseller stores) 13" P…

It will not replace Pro series. The CPU for the new MacBook (1.1GHz dual-core Intel Core M processor) cannot even out-perform current MacBook Air, let alone MacBook Pro.

I wonder how this will impact the resell prices of the former models.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by thomasfoster96 »

paradite wrote: post #828
thomasfoster96 wrote: post #779

I'm currently looking for a new laptop, which will probably be a Mac, given I'm not familiar with using Linux nor have I liked using Windows lately. Looking at the pricing for this, I can't see much of a reason for why I'd get this over a Macbook Air or Macbook Pro w/ Retina. Using Australian prices - This - $1799 11" Air - $1249 13" Air - $1399 13" Retina - $1799 (I've seen $1599 in authorised reseller stores) 13" P…

It will not replace Pro series. The CPU for the new MacBook (1.1GHz dual-core Intel Core M processor) cannot even out-perform current MacBook Air, let alone MacBook Pro.

Well if you're looking at CPU speed when buying it won't, but a suzeable number of Apples market probably doesn't.

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by cmurf »

nsxwolf wrote: post #561
SiVal wrote: post #509

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because you can't really tell how well software is working when looking at the device edge-on, and that's apparently the way Apple looks at them most of the time. I mean this more metaphorically than literally, but I'm so tired of complaints about the ridiculously primitive Finder being met with, "the edge of the iMac now appears even thinner, now that we've repositioned formerly convenient connectors and such into a…

Curious - what do Finder complainers consider the gold standard of file browsers that Finder should aspire to be? I do most of my file management at the command line so I don't experience the pain of Finder very often, and I've generally been able to get Finder to do what I want without much fuss. Windows Explorer is, to me, a painful experience (but its 1980s DOS command line is so much worse) I've found the various…

I consider the gold standard of file browsers to be the one the pro-NeXT+Cocoa/anti-Carbon camp swore on Jesus' grave that would vastly exceed and suck less than the Carbon one once Apple finally rewrote it entirely in Cocoa. Well that happened and yet there's been essentially no change. It still hangs and spins a beachball when a network is disconnected, it's still gets confused what icons to use, and duplicate app icons in contextual launch menus, on and on, it's like - yeah it's not a Cocoa vs Carbon thing, can we admit that now?

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by teekert »

nkoren wrote: post #261

This is a beautiful machine. Once again, Apple excels at hardware. But what the living hell is going wrong with Apple's desktop software? OS X and Apple's applications suite have been getting steadily worse with every release. Look at the App store: the latest releases of OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, Pages, and Numbers are (in stark contrast to earlier versins) all rated at 2.5/5 stars, with the plurality being 1-star revie…

Add facetime to that list. Me and many others haven't been able to use it for over a year due to popping noises. (https://discussions.apple.com/message/27784968?ac_cid=tw1234...) And before the popping there was the intense echo (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5489176?start=0&tstart=...)

For me osX was the reason to switch, yes, nice battery life (at the time, 2011) was nice but having iMovie for family movies, a pro-Photo-suite for 60$ (Aperture!) and being able to call family (who all have iPads) over facetime were most compelling.

Finder is indeed horrible, it never reconnects my Samba share, it never opens the way I left it and always in a window that I find too small, when browsing to a network share it may sometimes switch from icon view to tree view and the mapping of the folders in home is strange, in the terminal the folders are called differently in my language. And where is sshfs, ftp etc. Really, I have to download Cyberduck?!

Re: The new MacBook

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Post by frik »

banachtarski wrote: post #608
nkoren wrote: post #261

This is a beautiful machine. Once again, Apple excels at hardware. But what the living hell is going wrong with Apple's desktop software? OS X and Apple's applications suite have been getting steadily worse with every release. Look at the App store: the latest releases of OS X, iPhoto, iMovie, Pages, and Numbers are (in stark contrast to earlier versins) all rated at 2.5/5 stars, with the plurality being 1-star revie…

OpenGL compatibility is still 4.1... I like linux, I like Apple hardware, but as a graphics/game programmer, I find developing native OSX applications to be a miserable process.

Apple only supports a subset of OpenGL 4.1 last time I checked.

iOS8 supports WebGL. iOS4 already supported WebGL but exclusive to iAds. There is the new iOS only metal graphics API to compete with OpenGl/WebGL in AppStore.

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