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Steam Machine launches today

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Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by port11 »

Forgeties79 wrote: post #837
Lucasoato wrote: post #684

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

I totally get where they’re coming from but sadly it doesn’t change the fact that $1100+ is a tough sell for the benchmarks they’re hitting.

Given the price of components right now, I don’t know. 1k for that small of a form factor seems acceptable. It’s a nice addition to the living room, could likely play a role in cancelling expensive video streaming subscriptions. Might also run some local LLMs. Seems decent.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by rb666 »

jojobas wrote: post #667
WarmWash wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be curious how the public would react to a Dutch auction, where Valve launches the console at a $10,000 price tag, and every ~hour drops the price by $100 until they are sold out. It creates the illusion that buyers are "breaking the line" when buying high, so it's their fault (not valves) for the high selling price. This would also eliminate scalpers.

This basically makes the vendor the scalper, and the public would react accordingly.

Ticketmaster does this, and they are still around.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Forgeties79 »

port11 wrote: post #841
Forgeties79 wrote: post #837

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally get where they’re coming from but sadly it doesn’t change the fact that $1100+ is a tough sell for the benchmarks they’re hitting.

Given the price of components right now, I don’t know. 1k for that small of a form factor seems acceptable. It’s a nice addition to the living room, could likely play a role in cancelling expensive video streaming subscriptions. Might also run some local LLMs. Seems decent.

I love my steam deck and I just don’t see this working, but time will tell. If they sell 2-3mill units I’d consider that a wild success and that i was dead wrong. really hope I am. Steam machine will really change the game if it success

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by theshackleford »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #721
gonzalohm wrote: post #307

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You are lucky. A lot of the games I play with friends use kernel level anticheat crap that doesn't work on Linux

But you're playing with friends, right? So you don't actually need anticheat at all. Or are you playing with friends and random assholes from the internet? I'm curious because if a game requires anticheat that means there's an intention that I'd be playing with people who would cheat if they could. And I don't want to have anything to do with people like that. I don't really understand why anyone wants to spend their…

> And I don't want to have anything to do with people like that.

And nobody is forcing you too.

> I don't really understand why anyone wants to spend their time playing games with assholes from the internet.

Maybe your experience and preference is not shared equally by all? HN users in particular to seem to struggle with this concept for some reason.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

fragmede wrote: post #838
Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #833

I know many people keep pointing at PS5 as the competition, but I'll throw this in: I can buy a game on PC and play it on the go, I don't have to buy anything else. The Steam Deck+a PC places Steam in a different league than the PS5 (for now). Nintendo Switch 2 is way closer, however the games are different (I don't love Nintendo games). Finally for those of us with a big Steam library and kids, buying a Steam machin…

Until the next Steam sale. Steam Summer Sale is coming up!

Lol! I know right?

Jokes aside, I figured out techniques to avoid buying all together, which is great. I already spent plenty.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by willis936 »

socalgal2 wrote: post #633
willis936 wrote: post #267

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Valve gets it. I very much want to support them and vote with my wallet. Unfortunately the Steam machine isn't a good fit for me. I will buy the frame in a heartbeat though. HMD with a FOSS OS? That's in its own class.

Color AR is a thing Frame doesn't support so sadly it's behind the times and I can't go back

Sure, and I'd really like a true black display. I accept that any mass market device coming from a niche will have compromises in the interest of reaching a broader market. The high end is already served by pimax and bigscreen.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by shantara »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #706
Lucasoato wrote: post #684

> Steam Machine, like our other hardware products, is made up of many components that we source from manufacturers around the world. The price at which we sell our hardware is a direct result of the cost of these components. We felt like we had a good understanding of how those costs might change over time when we first started sourcing them for Steam Machine back in 2023. That understanding was born from the many ye…

I have a feeling it would have cost drastically less if we didn't have a RAM / storage crisis, which is really sad.

The original price should have been in $700-800 range, pre-RAM and storage pricing escalation, which would have changed the equation drastically. I even considered getting it as a mostly streaming box for a living room, intending to play only the lighter games on device. But for the announced price and after delays, it just doesn't make sense financially. As is, you're grossly overpaying for the level of GPU performance Steam Machine offers.

Re: Steam Machine launches today

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Post by redsocksfan45 »

bigyabai wrote: post #716
Gigachad wrote: post #708

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Valve's communication around this release has redirected all rage towards Sam Altman rather than the Steam Machine.

The "rage" is largely surrounding the price, not the Machine hardware itself. The Deck sold like hotcakes at $400. We'll see actual outrage when the masses defer new smartphone upgrades due to price bumps.

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