Definitely a very powerful tech. Though currently I'm using Openclaw (locally and VPS) with Deepseek. It is just way cheaper.
Claude Fable 5
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Re: Claude Fable 5
#842I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
I don't live in USA. I'm getting paid around $2500/month and that's good salary for developers here, plenty of folks are getting below that number.
So this pricing is just completely outside of our economics and nobody I know would pay that, no company will justify spending $20k/month when they can hire 10 more developers instead.
It is very interesting unfolding of events. Can't wrap my head around it completely.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#843I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
I don't live in USA. I'm getting paid around $2500/month and that's good salary for developers here, plenty of folks are getting below that number. So this pricing is just completely outside of our economics and nobody I know would pay that, no company will justify spending $20k/month when they can hire 10 more developers instead. It is very interesting unfolding of events. Can't wrap my head around it completely.
Not justifying AI expenses, but $2500/mo could easily cost employer close to 5000$/mo depending on country.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#844An 11% jump over opus 4.8 and a 22% jump over gpt 5.5 on Agentic Coding Benchmarks is certainly impressive. Obviously still need to verify it for myself to see if it's truely a leap. But am I the only one wondering, "What can I do today that I couldnt do yesterday?" Previously I would think "Oh I wonder if I can finally get it to do X now?" However now I feel like yesterdays models were more that capable to handle ne…
Agree the per-task capability hasn't been the blocker for a while. But on the autonomous-loop question — in my experience that's not gated by how good the model is on any single step. What kills the loop is it slowly losing the constraints from earlier in the run and walking back decisions you'd already settled.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#845absolutely beast model but the token consumption is the 2x then the opus 4.8 what do you think about this ? i think that it should only use for the more complex task otherwise you have to run out of the limit..
Re: Claude Fable 5
#846I recently switched off Max flat rate to Enterprise API pricing and I went from 200/mo to 10k/mo with the same usage pattern on Opus. They don’t offer flat rate to enterprises. So Fable would cost me 20k/mo at Enterprise rates. That’s around the average cost of a loaded SWE in the USA. “But I’m >2x more productive” doesn’t justify doubling the opex of the Software/IT department for most companies when revenue isn’t e…
With GPT 5.5 on the $100 plan, it's hard to hit any 5h/7d limits - while allegedly being better than DeepSeek 4 pro. Not sure why, or how you spend "a few hundred dollars of spend". With that said, I still had the Pro plan on Claude, I didn't expect much, but it blew up my 5h allowance on Fable with one simple single prompt, and it didn't even complete lmao
I'm on $200 plan which is supposedly 20x usage of $20 plan. With few Fable prompts (I'm working on u-boot port) I got 10% of my 5h usage, so that's already 2x of $20 plan usage and that would be 40% of $100 plan.
So Fable is just not usable for $20 plan and barely usable for $100 plan.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#847After 1 hour with Fable on Ultracode:
You've hit your monthly spend limit.
/rate-limit-options
What do you want to do?
Adjust monthly spend limit: Unlimited ← or → to set a limit
Wait for limit to reset
I added $133 credits which I still had from somewhere. That lasted 27 minutes.
I think we are being prepared for a Post-IPO-World in terms of pricing.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#848> In light of the ability of recent models to accelerate their own development, we’ve implemented new interventions that limit Claude’s effectiveness for requests targeting frontier LLM development (for example, on building pretraining pipelines, distributed training infrastructure, or ML accelerator design). Using Claude to develop competing models already violates our Terms of Service, but enforcing this restrictio…
Could this be legally construed as anti-competitive behavior? Edit: I asked Claude. It replied: > Consumer protection / deceptive practices. In the EU this would be a clear UCPD (Unfair Commercial Practices Directive) issue and potentially a DSA violation. In the US, FTC Act §5 prohibits "unfair or deceptive acts." Selling a product that secretly performs worse than advertised for a commercially self-serving reason,…
Anthropic’s behavior reeks of insecurity. Imagine Google taking elaborate measures to prevent you from searching about search engine development!
Re: Claude Fable 5
#849I've spent enough time with this now in Claude Code (and Claude.ai and Claude Code for web) to have an opinion on Fable 5: it's a beast. I'm throwing some VERY difficult problems at at - things I've been dragging my heels on for months - and it's crunching through them very happily. One that I'm willing to share (albeit from just a week ago) - I built a Python library last week that bundles MicroPython compiled to WA…
> It's possible Opus or GPT-5.5 could have done this too, I've not tried the exact same sequence. The Fable vibes are good here, though. And that's the thing. These comparisons are all gut feelings. I'm missing objective unbiased measurements to actually have real comparisons between different models, their different generations, or even just the convention that everybody adds "you are an expert software engineer" an…
I believe there is hard evidence that role-playing prompts are effective at leading it towards particular strategies and trains of thought. Not sure that SWE has been specifically studied, but proper science is very slow in the context of rapid change and broad context. It's good to stay grounded in the science that has been done, but we're going to have to do our best in uncharted territory for a while.
"Don't make mistakes" does seem dumb. It's not guidance.
Re: Claude Fable 5
#850From today through June 22, Fable 5 is included on Pro, Max, Team, and seat-based Enterprise plans at no extra cost. On June 23, we’ll remove Fable 5 from those plans. Using it after that will require usage credits. If capacity allows, we’ll extend the included window. After this point—when sufficient capacity allows us to do so—we aim to restore Fable 5 as a standard part of subscription plans. We intend to do this…
I was just thinking this reminds me of the scene in The Wire where Avon admits to D'Angelo that the new heroin is in fact just the old heroin with different baby powder cutting it.