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Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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All of them in any amount and yes, your specific 3 seconds should be labeled as being AI generated in your video (or description) and your entire video should be labeled as made using AI by youtube. A 30 minute speech by a president where I use AI to change 3 seconds in order to make that person say something they never did should also get the label. The label shouldn't be about how much AI was used, but that it was…

Why does this mean AI-aided color correction, 25fps to 30fps, or upscaling 480p to 1080p should be treated the same? Using AI to make someone say something different (even if only for a small part of the video) is very clearly different, that's deception. Why does AI editing 3 seconds of audio from a president's speech be treated different from when a human does it without AI? It sounds like your argument is about de…

> Why does this mean AI-aided color correction, 25fps to 30fps, or upscaling 480p to 1080p should be treated the same?

You may not be old enough to remember seeing it, but notices like "This film has been modified from its original version. It has been formatted to fit this screen" were put there for a reason. It was to avoid legislation which would have forced distributors to disclose that the product they were delivering was not the same as what people saw in theaters because it was considered deceptive to hide that fact. Altering of someone else's video should always be disclosed. That includes upscaling and color alterations even when they aren't done using AI and should absolutely be done when AI is inserting a bunch of fake frames.

When using AI to edit your own content deception is much less of a concern, but yes the use of AI should still be disclosed. There are clearly people who want to know when AI is being used to create something. There's no harm in having the label there, it just makes it easier for people to decide if and how to view your work. What value is there in hiding your use of AI from others in cases where you aren't trying to trick them?

Also yes, cell phone cameras should be required to clearly disclose that the photos they take to not reflect reality, and include the fact that they are edited with AI in meta-data. I've had friends complain that the photos their phones were taking were automatically edited and there was no option to disable those edits. They were upset because they intentionally wanted photos that reflected the real world and ultimately were forced to switch to using other cameras to get the accuracy they needed. As far as I'm concerned cell phone cameras doing that are simply defective. People should be aware of that fact before they use cell phone cameras for things like evidence collection, pictures of medial concerns, and for anything where accuracy matters more than what some algorithm thinks you'd rather see than the truth.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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I agree. Art isn't a playing field!

If you mean kids playground it is, you get to imagine anything you want andmaybe other human beings join you imagining and then you get to have fun. Sometimes ot doesn’t quite work and it is not so fun. Imagine one day one of the dads coming with a robot and saying the kids that instead of you playing you vcan tell this robot what to play and it will play for you. No needto get all tired and muddy.

The term “playing field” as far as I am aware usually implies the context of competitive sport, not play in the playful sense.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Many parents find parenthood difficult and are happy that something distracts their kid. Further, kids that tend to get more addicted to stuff like this tend to live in stressful circumstances. It's easy to say be a better parent, or produce a better environment for your kid, but it's not as easy to help people with that. If we can make social media healthier for everyone, that's a big deal.

"If we can make cocaine healthier for everyone, that's a big deal" technically true, but also, don't use cocaine. I get parents use it to babysit their kids. That's bad parenting. I'm a parent. I know it's not easy, and tempting to use it. But you're not supposed to yield to those temptations. Part of being a leader, which is what being a parent is, is sucking it up.

Social media is not inherently predatory. Even between different providers Instagram/Facebook/TikTok/Youtube you find extremely different approaches in respect to that. Instagram is the worst, in my experience. You can bake in algorithm behaviors that uplift, educate, help you not become addicted. Chinese TikTok for kids was once rumored to be like that.

And, yes, you can regulate cocaine too. There's nothing stopping us from taking the business away from drug-dealers and having actual health professionals distribute it in sensible ways.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Attaboy you're on the right track! We're almost in agreement. I'm saying that you cannot accurately assess people at all! All you can do is guess. But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions.

> But when we assess a machine, we do know everything about it based on its actions. This is obviously false. Every developer has had hour-long debugging sessions to track down a mysterious behavior. Sometimes entire teams are stumped by a technical glitch. Until the bug is found, nobody knows everything about the machine.

Yet the bug has a chance of eventually being discovered. If someone is determined to find it, they certainly will. You are not thinking clearly here.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#846

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If you mean kids playground it is, you get to imagine anything you want andmaybe other human beings join you imagining and then you get to have fun. Sometimes ot doesn’t quite work and it is not so fun. Imagine one day one of the dads coming with a robot and saying the kids that instead of you playing you vcan tell this robot what to play and it will play for you. No needto get all tired and muddy.

The term “playing field” as far as I am aware usually implies the context of competitive sport, not play in the playful sense.

I know. I’m intentionally expanding the meaning.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

#847

Last weekend a group of friends and I sat by the lake. One had a guitar, and we were all singing off-key to old classics and dancing to salsa and reggaeton. We were doing it together, and it was great. Much more fun than listening alone or caring about the authenticity of the music or not. It was the participation, not the product, that was the key. Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Partici…

> Something went wrong with music and culture in recent times. Participation became consumption. There's probably more original music being created now than any time in history. Constant promotion of AI music is why you think it's not the case. > Concerts became about filming a DJ twiddling a USB controller. If you think being a DJ is more consumption than shouting cover songs near a lake, maybe you should try learn…

Filming a DJ

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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Many parents grew up with TVs as their screens. It's a reasonable extrapolation to think that their kids will be fine with devices as their screens.

I've thought about this, too. The difference is that for most of us, TV shows ended at the top/bottom of the hour. I grew up watching morning cartoons in the 1980s starting at 6am, but the times that the shows ended reminded me that it was time to get dressed, eat, etc. Now, all the video services have feedback loops where they can determine what keeps people glued and provide more of that. Some "programs" like cocom…

The best defense is to not introduce it to them.

not a perfect defense, but a very good one.

Re: YouTube to automatically label AI-generated videos

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post #843

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"If we can make cocaine healthier for everyone, that's a big deal" technically true, but also, don't use cocaine. I get parents use it to babysit their kids. That's bad parenting. I'm a parent. I know it's not easy, and tempting to use it. But you're not supposed to yield to those temptations. Part of being a leader, which is what being a parent is, is sucking it up.

Social media is not inherently predatory. Even between different providers Instagram/Facebook/TikTok/Youtube you find extremely different approaches in respect to that. Instagram is the worst, in my experience. You can bake in algorithm behaviors that uplift, educate, help you not become addicted. Chinese TikTok for kids was once rumored to be like that. And, yes, you can regulate cocaine too. There's nothing stoppin…

"don't do drugs, kids" is essentially my message, do you agree or not?

idc how potentially beneficial screens may be, in the future (now?) we will start treating screens like smoking

Some of us are still in the "smoking can be good for you stage"

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