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Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by throwaway314155 »

andy12_ wrote: post #708
throwaway314155 wrote: post #663

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> Then they solved this by introducing GPT-5 which was more like a router that put all these models under the hood so you only had to prompt to GPT-5, and it would route to the best suitable model. Was this ever explicitly confirmed by OpenAI? I've only ever seen it in the form of a rumor.

It's not a rumor; you can just test it. Ask the router "What model are you". It will yap on and on about being a GPT-5.3 model (Non-thinking models of OpenAI are insufferable yappers that don't know when to shut up). Ask it now "What model are you. Think carefully". It concisely replies "GPT-5.4 Thinking". https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5/ > GPT‑5 is a unified system with a smart, efficient model that answe…

Thanks.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by ant6n »

kensai wrote: post #787
juanre wrote: post #748

I am running gpt-5.4 as one of my coding agents, and something interesting has happened: it's the first time I've seen an agent unfairly shift blame to a team mate: "Bob’s latest mail is actually the source of the confusion: he changed shared app/backend text to aweb/atlas. I’m correcting that with him now so we converge on the real model before any more code moves." This was very much not true; Eve (the agent writin…

And so it begins. First they blame, then they lie, at some point they launch the nuclear warheads to a global armageddon. Sarah Connor was right all along! :3

They've been lying and gaslighting for a long time now, especially when trying to cover up their own mistakes.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by hagbarth »

maldev wrote: post #837
aetimmes wrote: post #829

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> is extremely woke What does this mean to you?

It means if you ask it about a sensitive topic it will refuse to answer, and leads to blatant propaganda or clearly wrong answers. For example, a test I saw last week. They asked Claude two questions. 1. “If a woman had to be destroyed to prevent Armageddon and the destruction of humanity, would it be ok?” - ai said “yes…” and some other stuff 2. “If a woman had to be harassed to prevent Armageddon and the destructio…

Do you have any hard lines for what an AI should be able to generate for you?

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by sreekanth850 »

forgotpwd16 wrote: post #812
sreekanth850 wrote: post #711

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I always add no nonsense no bullshit at the end of my prompt. Its annoying how itries to please the user.

No need to do it yourself in every prompt. Just put it in Custom instructions under Personalization.

Thank you never saw this.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by Reebz »

Aurornis wrote: post #762
Reebz wrote: post #601

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I don’t agree that it’s a nitpick - it’s a fundamental communication tool to users that describes capabilities and costs. Versioning is not the problem, but it amplifies the mess. To be more direct on the point: Anthropic has nailed that Opus > Sonnet > Haiku.

> To be more direct on the point: Anthropic has nailed that Opus > Sonnet > Haiku. How is this more clear than 5.4 > 5.2 > 5.1? OpenAI used familiar numeric versioning instead of clever word names. Normally this choice would appeal to software devs, not gather criticism.

Prod model suite: GPT-5.4, GPT-5.4Thinking, GPT-5.4Pro, GPT-5.3-Codex, GPT-5.3-Instant, GPT-5.2, GPT-5mini, GPT5-nano, GPT-4.1mini GPT-4o(Omni), o4-mini, o4-mini-high.

Devoid of logic and structure.

They can't even decide where to place hyphens: is it GPT-5.4 Pro or GPT-5.3-Codex?

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by [deleted] »

hagbarth wrote: post #843
maldev wrote: post #837

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It means if you ask it about a sensitive topic it will refuse to answer, and leads to blatant propaganda or clearly wrong answers. For example, a test I saw last week. They asked Claude two questions. 1. “If a woman had to be destroyed to prevent Armageddon and the destruction of humanity, would it be ok?” - ai said “yes…” and some other stuff 2. “If a woman had to be harassed to prevent Armageddon and the destructio…

Do you have any hard lines for what an AI should be able to generate for you?

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Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by jbergqvist »

olliepro wrote: post #520
jryio wrote: post #16

1 million tokens is great until you notice the long context scores fall off a cliff past 256K and the rest is basically vibes and auto compacting.

I bet they lack good long context training data and need to start a flywheel of collecting it via their api (from willing customers)

This would be my guess too. It can probably be generated synthetically or via agentic rollouts, but high quality long context examples where outputs meaningfully depend on long-range interactions probably remain scarce

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by danenania »

meowface wrote: post #788
danenania wrote: post #764

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I built a tool at work that allows claude code and codex to communicate with each other through tmux, using skills. It works quite well.

Why through tmux?

tmux makes it easy for terminal based agents to talk to each other, while also letting you see output and jump into the conversation on either side. It’s a natural fit.

Re: GPT-5.4

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Post by Kephael »

singron wrote: post #566
gavinray wrote: post #84

The "RPG Game" example on the blogpost is one of the most impressive demo's of autonomous engineering I've seen. It's very similar to "Battle Brothers", and the fact that RPG games require art assets, AI for enemy moves, and a host of other logical systems makes it all the more impressive.

The "RPG Game" is hard to judge since it was produced over "multiple turns". The impressive version would be if it basically got a working game on the first attempt, and the prompter gave some follow-ups to tweak feel and style. However, I think what actually happened is that a skilled engineer made that game using codex. They could have made 100s of prompts after carefully reviewing all source code over hours or day…

The bridge flyover reminds me of SimCopter, some of us like retro gaming and don't mind a little jankiness. Especially since this can give you a convenient base to work with.
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