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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by hnben »

poulpy123 wrote: post #718
BatteryMountain wrote: post #108

If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

I don't think open source can get a big market share but it can give you a nice niche market of tech enthusiasts if they play their hand well. For that they need to not let the development of the OS to just the graphene os team, and to have competitive hardware, software and prices.

> I don't think open source can get a big market share but it can give you a nice niche market of tech enthusiasts

companies and governments in Europe start embracing digital sovereignty. Governments start to realize, that US corporations lie, when they say they won't spy on governments officials.

I am not saying, that Europe WILL increase opensource and sovereignty, but odds are good, that a cultural shift away from US-dependence will happen soon, which would include embracing of Opensource

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by palata »

burner420042 wrote: post #839
palata wrote: post #753

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> It's not simple enough for mainstream, and UI is odd. It's exactly the same UI as Stock Android on a Google Pixel. If you find GrapheneOS' UI odd, then Android is just not for you, I guess?

This response lacks thought and is argumentative. The UI is not the same nor are the app defaults. Combined they create a different UX from stock Android. The default graphene App Store, and expected apps found there are different than Google Play or what you'd find on Google Play. The default permissions of each app are restrictive, most notable when you start mixing App Stores. F-Droid culture, and the app options,…

I don't know how to answer to this, other than you seemingly don't know Android so much.

Everything you describe here is normal on all Android (e.g. differences of UI or differences of default apps). F-Droid has nothing to do with GrapheneOS.

> Exploit protection compat mode for banking apps.

This is the only caveat: some (not all) banking apps are annoying.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by palata »

hnben wrote: post #838
palata wrote: post #751

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> At my age, I’m not looking for my phone to become a hobby. I have been trying Linux on mobile. This is a hobby. I have been using GrapheneOS... honestly it's just like a normal Android after two steps: 1. Install GrapheneOS (their installer is incredibly good , it just works). 2. From the GrapheneOS store, install the Play Store (it's like 3 taps). After that it's a normal Android, except it's more secure and you g…

did you have issues with banking apps, authenticator apps or outlook on workprofile? I ask, because when I was using cyanogenmod a hundred years ago, banking apps were a major pain. And now I am using outlook on a flagship with stockrom, and outlook on workprofile is still a major pain, and I can easily imagine, it working even worse on grapheneos.

> outlook on workprofile?

I don't have outlook, but Teams works normally, as far as I can tell

> authenticator apps

No issues there with the Microsoft Authenticator and Yubico Authenticator.

> banking apps

My banking apps work, but that's not the case for all of them. I would personally change bank rather than leaving GrapheneOS. The annoying part could be work apps (I wouldn't want to have a second phone just for work), but my bank I can change :-).

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by joemazerino »

DaSHacka wrote: post #807
gib444 wrote: post #444

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> and I'm getting GOS news directly, not from HN And from a director themselves! strcat is one of the directors in case you didn't know (Daniel). Which makes his reply quite bizarre

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by gib444 »

DaSHacka wrote: post #807
gib444 wrote: post #444

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> and I'm getting GOS news directly, not from HN And from a director themselves! strcat is one of the directors in case you didn't know (Daniel). Which makes his reply quite bizarre

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by Iolaum »

strcat wrote: post #265
isqueiros wrote: post #148

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I'm just hoping they make figuring out contactless payments a priority.

Contactless payments already work on GrapheneOS via Curve Pay, PayPal and the apps of many European banks. Solving the duopoly between Apple and Google for smartphone tap-to-pay in the US isn't something GrapheneOS can do. Regulators / legislators can force Google to let GrapheneOS pass the Play Integrity API checks and Google Pay will start working.

Didn't know about curve pay - thanks for mentioning them. Will have to test them out!

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by gib444 »

summm wrote: post #168

Motorola, the one company that still tries to evade the EU ecodesign regulations? Other vendors just provide the required 5+ years of updates, but Motorola loudly and publicity announced that they saw a loophole in the wording and would use it as an excuse to not provide updates for some models. This is despicable and worthy of a boycott. https://www.heise.de/en/news/5-years-of-updates-Which-smartp... "Operating syst…

The project can't have had too many options in a partner, give them a break.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Post by padjo »

ryukoposting wrote: post #815
padjo wrote: post #356

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Curve Pay refused to give me an account on my Murena FP6 and no local bank offers contactless without google pay, so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman.

> so I'm stuck using a bank card like a caveman. What is "caveman" about a payment method that doesn't need to have a charged battery?

It was intended as a light hearted description of how it feels to use a marginally less convenient technology. I now have to ensure I have my bank card with me when I buy groceries which is a tiny bit annoying when you got used to just knowing your phone would cover most things.
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