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Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by grey-area »

herval wrote: post #761
grey-area wrote: post #531

This has much broader implications for the US economy and rule of law in the US. If government procurement rules intended for national security risks can be abused as a way to punish Anthropic for perceived lack of loyalty, why not any other company that displeases the administration like Apple or Amazon? This marks an important turning point for the US.

this entire administration has been a constant stream of "important turning point for the US" moments

That’s true and it’s not over yet, wait till he reaches the thousand year reich bit.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by lloeki »

paganel wrote: post #598
lloeki wrote: post #581

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that so? https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/macron-outline-france-nu... https://www.defense.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/ministere-ar...

France doesn't even have a nuclear triad in place, and last time they offered any big assurances at the international level Munich '38 happened and then June '40. Macron and the people running the French State are well aware of this, no matter their public statements.

I fail to see how the inane failures brought by a dysfunctional IVth Republic are in any way relevant to the post-WW2 world order where both nuclear weapons and the EU began to exist, and in which France has been extremely relevant multiple times over, both geopolitically and on operational theatres.

The importance of the land component of the triad is vastly overstated, simply do not make sense at the landmass size of France, and only matters when your doctrine is USA vs USSR cold-war era complete retaliatory annihilation anyway.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by codyb »

grey-area wrote: post #531

This has much broader implications for the US economy and rule of law in the US. If government procurement rules intended for national security risks can be abused as a way to punish Anthropic for perceived lack of loyalty, why not any other company that displeases the administration like Apple or Amazon? This marks an important turning point for the US.

What? Lol, they've been doing that the entire time. They're very open about the playbook lol.

Bow down, or get harassed, sued, investigated, fined, etc.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by codyb »

grey-area wrote: post #841
herval wrote: post #761

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this entire administration has been a constant stream of "important turning point for the US" moments

That’s true and it’s not over yet, wait till he reaches the thousand year reich bit.

Like hanging his face on banners at the DOJ while proclaiming he'd be entitled to a third term?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

#846

Post by codyb »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #676
pif wrote: post #660

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Utter idiocy at election day is not passivity. History will put Trumpers and Confederate at the same level of despicability.

You mean have a holiday for him? 4-8 states have a Confederacy Memorial Day.

The gold Donald Trump pin is just part of our culture

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by chazftw »

grey-area wrote: post #531

This has much broader implications for the US economy and rule of law in the US. If government procurement rules intended for national security risks can be abused as a way to punish Anthropic for perceived lack of loyalty, why not any other company that displeases the administration like Apple or Amazon? This marks an important turning point for the US.

Actually it doesn’t. Always been that way, the new generation hasn’t studied history as they should.

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by pavel_lishin »

robwwilliams wrote: post #756
pavel_lishin wrote: post #733

> We hope our leaders will put aside their differences and stand together to continue to refuse the Department of War's current demands for permission to use our models for domestic mass surveillance and autonomously killing people without human oversight. Hope is neat, but are the signatories willing to quit their jobs over this? Kind of a hollow threat if not.

Quitting their jobs? How is that the pragmatic or effective response?

How would it be pragmatic to say, "oh well!" and continue working there?

Re: We Will Not Be Divided

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Post by pavel_lishin »

thunky wrote: post #690
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #679

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would feel much better about other countries mass surveillance than the US. China for instance can’t do nearly as much to me as the US justice system can.

Ok so now connect the mass surveillance system to an automated killing system that can blow you up in the grocery store because you're standing in line next to its target.

I'm not sure if you're talking about America or a foreign nation in this example.
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