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Re: Facebook is cooked

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He has testified to congress that IG/meta does not promote sexual content, which is nuts, because anyone who’s spent 5 mins on the platform knows this absolutely not the case

Both can be true. IG/Meta does not promote sexual content. Users promote sexual content. That might be subtle but there is a real distinction.

> That might be subtle but there is a real distinction.

A distinction without a difference, as the expression goes

Re: Facebook is cooked

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He has testified to congress that IG/meta does not promote sexual content, which is nuts, because anyone who’s spent 5 mins on the platform knows this absolutely not the case

Both can be true. IG/Meta does not promote sexual content. Users promote sexual content. That might be subtle but there is a real distinction.

And who controls what user content goes into user feeds?

Re: Facebook is cooked

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post #521

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Moderation and recommendation are not the same thing.

The way modern social media platforms are designed, yes they are.

The point is that they don't have to be. You can moderate (scan for inappropriate content, copyrighted content, etc) without needing to have an algorithmic recommendation feed.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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post #544

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> we will look back at the algorithmic content feed as being on par with leaded gasoline or cigarettes in terms of societal harm I agree 100%. However, I think the core issue is not the use of an algorithm to recommend or even to show stuff. I think the issue is that the algorithm is optimized for the interests of a platform (max engagement => max ad revenue) and not for the interests of a user (happiness, delight, h…

We live in a society that only values money so why should anyone optimise for s.th. else?

This frames society as some exogenous entity that we have no influence over.

It also assumes that the society is homogenous, in the sense that everyone cares about the same thing. I don't think that's true at all.

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post #690

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People with those kind of arguments always get from response that if you were not trying to keep in touch with this friend personally then it was not truly a friend. Facebook friends does not equal real life friend.

I literally didn't learn that my own grandmother(I guess great aunt) had died until I happen to return home on the day the funeral was occurring. Everyone just assumed I knew because of Facebook and was there because of Facebook. Sometimes it's not about closeness. It's about people's expectations about how to communicate. My cousin was in no place to do anything but post to Facebook and then collapse. My sister help…

I am sorry that it happened to you. Maybe I think that I have a solution because my wife tells me everything worth while from FB as the frequent user. Or maybe it is because I am not there at all which forces people to notify me directly by other means if necessary. Which is a problem for them but it is much a problem for me to keep in touch. So maybe if they feel some kind of symmetry in this it is fair to do it anyway to keep in touch? Anyway it is not like it is not solvable problem. People just do what they do because it is easier. Take that away and they will find another means.

Re: Facebook is cooked

#847

Very nice to see this post and realize like I'm not the only one seeing things like this. Two quick stories: I have always been a late mover to social networks, started using Facebook after many years of everybody around me using it and the same happened with Instagram. More recently, short videos and reels never caught my eye, never watched them and honestly took a long time to even realize they existed within Insta…

Deleting/ turning off history = nothing on the home page.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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post #499
post #326

I agree with most of this, but complaining about Yoleendadong is some "Old man yells at cloud" stuff. My wife is a big fan, as she has a lot of funny content specific to Asian cultures. Yes, she has some relationship stuff too. You may not like her content, but she's got a few hundred thousand subscribers on Youtube, and 17 million on TikTok.

I was about to point out two things: 1. This bit you just pointed out. Facebook suggesting Yoleendadong, that’s not weird, she’s wildly popular. Her inclusion in this piece discredits OP as someone who basically has no idea how social media works - which makes the article less insightful, like asking David Attenborough to work the play by play commentary of an NBA game. 2. I don’t think OP realizes how much he should…

> thirst slop like this.

Buddy, I wish the thirst slop on Facebook was like this.

I told my wife quite openly how I went through a 6 week period where I just couldn't get rid of AI generated booby photos of Salma Hayek. Why her? Who knows? I tried everything. Eventually it fixed itself.

Occasionally, FB ads churn up straight up porn which is pretending to be something else. I'm not talking about OF girls - I actually think comparatively they are pretty noble - they pay for ads, and don't bullshit you what it's about. A lot of them are less risque than the people pushing their Insta or whatever.

Re: Facebook is cooked

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maybe the centralized, corporate-owned web, but not the internet... at least, not yet...

If anything the open internet seems worse . Every google search for some anodyne home maintenance task returns hundreds of AI-generated slop "guides" with affiliate links. YouTube is the last refuge for real information on this kind of thing. Coming across a human-written guide on the open web is increasingly rare.

I almost clarified that - Google Search is definitely part of that very centralized, corporate-owned web I was referring to. Like what you're describing is exactly what I'm talking about. But there are more and more niche obscure corners of the internet that you don't easily find, where good stuff is happening. People are still using IRC, Hotline, KDX, Gopher, and then there's newer stuff like Gemini ( https://geminiprotocol.net/ ), and potentially-invite-only close-knit communities on Mastodon and Lemmy. Oh yeah and then there's the alternatives to corporate stuff like Instagram -> PixelFed, YouTube -> PeerTube...

Re: Facebook is cooked

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That trivial definition sees limited use in the real world. Few countries that are popularly considered democratic have direct democracy. Most weigh votes geographically or use some sort of representative model. Most established definitions of democracy goes something like, heavily simplified: 1. Free media 2. Independent judicial system 3. Peaceful system for the transfer of power The most popular model for implemen…

Of course social media influences elections. Direct or indirect, the principle of democracy is the same: the electorate hears a diversity of perspectives and votes according to the ones found most convincing. How can you say you believe in democracy when you want to control what people hear so they don't vote the wrong way? In a democracy there is no such thing as voting the wrong way. Who are you to decide which per…

You write as though the selection of information by algorithmic feeds is a politically neutral act, which comes about by free actions of the people. But this is demonstrably not the case. Selecting hard for misinformation which enrages (because it increases engagement) means that social media are pushing populations further and further to the right. And this serves the interest of the literal handful of billionaires who control those sites. This is the unhealthy concentration of power the OP writes about, and it is a threat to democracy as we've known it.
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