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New York’s budget bill would require “blocking technology” on all 3D printers

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> illegal to carry a firearm to go commit crimes Of which Pretti did zero of.

There is video of him kicking light the tail light of a federal law enforcement vehicle, which is definitely a crime. And that’s just what we have video of.

We have video from both sides of the door of a stack of ICE agents with AR15s breaking down a door to a daycare without a warrant.

We have video of at least three ICE agents executing people in the street with testimony that contradicts what we see with our eyes.

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Goat herders with guns in Afghanistan kicked the U.S. army out of their country.

This isn't really accurate. The Northern Alliance entered into an agreement with the US to secure the country. An insurgency sprang up and we fought it for 20 years before giving up. Since this is now after the fact, we can safely say the Taliban ran the insurgency the whole time. The Taliban are a military and political group compromised of an ethnic minority in Afghanistan. It's not even that the US lost to "goat h…

No. Pakistan supported an insurgency group for 20 years.

No insurgency like that can exist without foreign support in some form, usually from governments but it can be from resource export.

And the reality is nobody has ever defeated a foreign sponsored insurgency. Some have ended because the sponsor quit sponsoring them, but that is not the same thing as defeated.

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Other people have already pointed out the differences between implementing a check for a specific banned print and a vague categorical ban. It would be like if printer manufacturers weren't just asked to prevent the printing of US dollars, but anything that looks like money, having an ability to detect if something is money-like based on look and feel alone, without relying on an existing database or hardcoded waterm…

>Other people have already pointed out the differences between implementing a check for a specific banned print and a vague categorical ban. If you have seen that other people have pointed it out, you have already seen my response, but I guess people keep repeating the question, so I need to repeat the answer. This regulation establishes a working group to investigate this technology. If the technical aspects are as…

> Think of it like the early stages of internet copyright protections, the first step is just cross-referencing the design with a list of known banned designs. Just like an early Youtuber could have mirrored banned videos to bypass copyright detection, people will likely still be able to manipulate designs in certain ways to get past this sort of ban. That's ok. Regulation like this doesn't have to be 100% effective to still be worth doing. The goal here is to make it more difficult for some random person with no expertise to buy a 3d printer, download some files, and print a weapon.

Yes, I agree, and I understand that the law is narrow in this way. However, I still have worries that make the problem of matching STLs harder and less effective than the US dollar printing ban in ways that would force their hand to strengthen the legislation to make it not completely toothless. For one, STLs don't have consistent tells like money does - if you just match it by hash or something, even the most trivial modifications like an irrelevant metadata change or shifting the entire print to the side by 0.01 or something would be enough to thwart the detection. This would be far less effective than the money printer ban, and is so easy to execute that it would nearly nullify the value of this law, because it could be bypassed with a one-line instruction. Matching STLs by geometry within certain tolerances would be better, but still circumventable. This approach would give us the scenario you proposed, so I'm hoping it will go in this direction. However, now that the door to discussing 3D printing regulation is open, there's nothing stopping this law from being dialed up further, especially if they go with the first approach and find it completely ineffective.

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Yes, this comes up, but the Court tends to say things that didn’t exist are covered by constitutional rights. I can’t imagine think of any time they asked “could the founders have imagined this?” Television, radio, and the internet are all protected by freedom of the press without anybody ever showing that the founders could have imagined them. From Heller v. DC: “Some have made the argument, bordering on the frivolo…

> the Court tends to say things that didn’t exist are covered by constitutional rights. Sure but drivers licenses exist when no similar requirements existed for horse drawn buggies because the clear increase in relative danger to the public. When comparing newspapers with radio, the limited spectrum on radio was accepted as justification for more restricted speech etc. Really citing when the court ruled one way vs an…

> drivers licenses exist when no similar requirements existed for horse drawn buggies

They absolutely did.

https://www.tmlw.co.il/db/content/75d5befd0cba51b0639bbf1086...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is video of him kicking light the tail light of a federal law enforcement vehicle, which is definitely a crime. And that’s just what we have video of.

We have video from both sides of the door of a stack of ICE agents with AR15s breaking down a door to a daycare without a warrant. We have video of at least three ICE agents executing people in the street with testimony that contradicts what we see with our eyes.

An illegal immigrant fled a traffic stop and went into a daycare: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/11/05/dhs-sets-record-straight...

Pursuit is an exception to the warrant requirement, according to a 1976 Supreme Court case: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hot_pursuit

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post #817

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> the Court tends to say things that didn’t exist are covered by constitutional rights. Sure but drivers licenses exist when no similar requirements existed for horse drawn buggies because the clear increase in relative danger to the public. When comparing newspapers with radio, the limited spectrum on radio was accepted as justification for more restricted speech etc. Really citing when the court ruled one way vs an…

> drivers licenses exist when no similar requirements existed for horse drawn buggies They absolutely did. https://www.tmlw.co.il/db/content/75d5befd0cba51b0639bbf1086...

Note the “one horse and one seat” bit.

That’s closer to a vehicle registration than a license for the driver.

That example also expires in 1880, but there’s various regulations around carriages going back to England in the 1600’s. They were more about congestion and taxes rather than the capabilities of the drivers the way a drivers license tests vision, knowledge of road rules, and practical skills is focused on just how amazingly dangerous cars are.

Critically, you can legally own a street legal car without a license and a license without a car.

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We have video from both sides of the door of a stack of ICE agents with AR15s breaking down a door to a daycare without a warrant. We have video of at least three ICE agents executing people in the street with testimony that contradicts what we see with our eyes.

An illegal immigrant fled a traffic stop and went into a daycare: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/11/05/dhs-sets-record-straight... Pursuit is an exception to the warrant requirement, according to a 1976 Supreme Court case: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/hot_pursuit

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> illegal to carry a firearm to go commit crimes Of which Pretti did zero of.

There is video of him kicking light the tail light of a federal law enforcement vehicle, which is definitely a crime. And that’s just what we have video of.

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post #162

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I thought "Alt" in the title is meant in the sense of "stop", as in "halt", but on second thoughts maybe that only works in French (where h is always silent)?

It's clearly meant to be part of the Ctrl-Alt-Del key sequence that interrupts Windows computers to bring up the task manager.

Yes, but I thought they were making a colourful pune or play on words.

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This isn't really accurate. The Northern Alliance entered into an agreement with the US to secure the country. An insurgency sprang up and we fought it for 20 years before giving up. Since this is now after the fact, we can safely say the Taliban ran the insurgency the whole time. The Taliban are a military and political group compromised of an ethnic minority in Afghanistan. It's not even that the US lost to "goat h…

No. Pakistan supported an insurgency group for 20 years. No insurgency like that can exist without foreign support in some form, usually from governments but it can be from resource export. And the reality is nobody has ever defeated a foreign sponsored insurgency. Some have ended because the sponsor quit sponsoring them, but that is not the same thing as defeated.

I don't really think it's news that the Taliban are sponsored by Pakistan. We've known that longer than I've been alive.
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