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Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by throw2947378 » Sun, Feb 08, 2026, 2:23 PM UTC

thisislife2 wrote: post #707

doofkoof wrote: post #695

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It is not as those Arab nations are some phenomenon of nature. The process of Arabization was, and perhaps is, itself one of settler colonialism and oppression. The fact that the colors of the caliphates are explicitly flown in areas outside of Arabia is proof enough of that.

Sure. I am from one such country (India) that was exposed to the Islamic culture through trade, muslim raiders and even many muslim conquerors who made our country their home (the Mughal empire being the most famous one). We are also quite familiar with imperialism and colonisation as, like the Palestinians, we were once a British colony too. However, in my country no one rational advocates that as we are a relativel…

Israelis are not advocating to “raid some foreign country and occupy it”, and Israel has not expanded in controlled territory since 1967.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by phucyucuz0 » Mon, Feb 09, 2026, 10:38 AM UTC

pydry wrote: post #781

phucyucuz0 wrote: post #778

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Sakharov actually owned it. He straight up was like "I don't care about them" He never claimed to be the champion of the Americans. On the other hand, the Left seems to claim to be the main representative of women and gay rights for example, everywhere. You can't build your entire brand on "solidarity with the oppressed" and then ghost the moment you don't have the same specific advantage you want for your agenda. Sa…

Expressing solidarity with the victims of genocide whom your government helped kill isnt a branding exercise. Not unless you're a cynical, murderous psychopath. It's an expression of basic human decency.

That's using a jurisdictional defense to protect a universal claim.

If the Left's platform was explicitly "We are an anti-imperialist check on Western power" then your argument would hold. But the actual platform is usually "Women's Rights and Gay Rights are Universal Human Rights"

You cannot claim such universal moral authority when it's convenient ("Justice everywhere!") and then retreat to the safety of a particularist stance ("I only care about what my tax dollars fund!") when it's difficult.

If your "basic human decency" only activates when the aggressor is your own government, then you aren't actually standing in solidarity with the oppressed. You are implicitly arguing that a victim's value depends entirely on the nationality of their killer.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by kvgr » Tue, Feb 10, 2026, 11:44 AM UTC

lukan wrote: post #458

kvgr wrote: post #456

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No thing wrong with. They fought Hamas.

Are also all the children in Gaza Hamas? Even the babies?

Yes, it is horrible. But what is the alternative? Does Hamas discriminate where do their rockets go? Lets stop all the wars and live in peace, i really wish that. But hamas does not want it, and it holds gaza as a hostage.

Re: Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, documents reveal

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Post by myroon5 » Thu, Feb 12, 2026, 5:57 PM UTC

phucyucuz0 wrote: post #842

pydry wrote: post #781

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Expressing solidarity with the victims of genocide whom your government helped kill isnt a branding exercise. Not unless you're a cynical, murderous psychopath. It's an expression of basic human decency.

That's using a jurisdictional defense to protect a universal claim. If the Left's platform was explicitly "We are an anti-imperialist check on Western power" then your argument would hold. But the actual platform is usually "Women's Rights and Gay Rights are Universal Human Rights" You cannot claim such universal moral authority when it's convenient ("Justice everywhere!") and then retreat to the safety of a particul…

> retreat [..] when it's difficult

Focusing on more tractable causes makes sense (fwiw I think there are more tractable causes than both of those geopolitical conflicts: millions and millions die annually from preventable global health ailments)