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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by vharuck »

quacked wrote: post #728
4gotunameagain wrote: post #723

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using the medical need of someone's child in order to track them down and deport them, separating them from their family ? I wish I believed in god, because this shit is beyond evil.

What ICE is doing is naked incompetent fascism and the entity needs to be disbanded with hostility. With that said, no, it's not evil to deport people who entered a country illegally. If I sneak into China, and China finds out, they are morally and legally clear to send me back, whether or not I've had children in China.

It likely wouldn't poll well for elections, but today's ICE does need to be disbanded. Its tasks can be given to other agencies until a replacement can be created and staffed. The recent recruitment drive makes it nearly impossible to reform the agency. There's just too many agents introduced in the poisonous culture and goals.

An easy win that should get widespread approval is bolstering the immigration court system. I have dark worries, but I'm still not entirely sure why this administration is whittling away at immigration courts. You'd think they'd want to process asylum applications faster, so invalid claimants could be deported sooner.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by notepad0x90 »

jesterson wrote: post #670
pjc50 wrote: post #229

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People keep forgetting that it's possible to legally migrate, work for awhile, and so on, and then "become illegal" due to deadlines or administration issues. An example every tech worker should understand is H1-B, where as an added bonus your employer can make you illegal.

Why did you put a quote around become illegal? It's illegal indeed, not illegal. You may like immigration laws or not, there is a very clear definition on legal aliens.

the migration was legal. you're not an "illegal" when you drive with an expired license are you? so quotes is appropriate when using the term as a title instead of a verb.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by tlogan »

simonw wrote: post #2

Any time I see people say "I don't see why I should care about my privacy, I've got nothing to hide" I think about how badly things can go if the wrong people end up in positions of power. The classic example here is what happens when someone is being stalked by an abusive ex-partner who works in law enforcement and has access to those databases. This ICE stuff is that scaled up to a multi-billion dollar federal agen…

I do not think this is really about privacy as much as it is about our broken immigration system. Let’s look at a simple case where both Democrats and Republicans largely agree.

On January 6, 2026, all South Sudanese nationals lost their TPS status and ordered to leave the US. At this point, they are all effectively declared illegal. I have not seen a single Democrat seriously argue that something should be done about this.

So what do we think people from South Sudan will actually do? Pack their bags and return to South Sudan?

My point is that a system where someone is admitted to the US completely legally, lives here for years, and is then suddenly reclassified as “illegal” is fundamentally broken.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

p1esk wrote: post #117
direwolf20 wrote: post #63

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Europe can't do business differently. Or at least it doesn't seem to be able to. China can.

China can Yes, things are different in totalitarian states.

"China can, due to mandatory 996 work hours"

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

actionfromafar wrote: post #391
leptons wrote: post #332

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I guess this is an example of FAFO? This is what the NRA wanted, now they got to find out how what happens when there are too many guns and too many idiots with guns masquerading as law enforcement. The guy had every right to have a gun, and the masked tyrants had no right to kill him for it.

The NRA is ostensibly pro guns but they are also pro oppression .

they are pro-money and pro-gun-industry.

ain't no left wing causes giving them $$$, just the GOP, gun industry, and occasionally the Russians

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by zimpenfish »

randallsquared wrote: post #796
zimpenfish wrote: post #751

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> The massive Somali fraud had no evidence It's weird, then, that most of them (and it's, like, 60 Somalis out of 80k) were already on trial[0] a good month before ... > a random YouTuber started knocking on quality learing center doors "As of December 2025, subsequent investigations by state officials have not found evidence of fraud at the sites Shirley visited." Oh no, that doesn't sound like a "massive Somali fra…

> > The massive Somali fraud had no evidence > It's weird, then, that most of them (and it's, like, 60 Somalis out of 80k) were already on trial[0] a good month before .. Those trials are for a completely separate fraud! In spite of some overlap between the supposed food distribution sites for Feeding Our Future and the recent childcare center fraud, they're actually not the same fraud, uh, "event".

> the recent childcare center fraud

"As of December 2025, subsequent investigations by state officials have not found evidence of fraud at the sites Shirley visited."

There is no fraud there which means the only -actual- fraud people can be complaining about re: Somalis in Minnesota must be the Feeding Our Future one.

Unless they're not complaining about that and are just making stuff up, obvs.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by [deleted] »

moogly wrote: post #335
nailer wrote: post #294

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Yes. I think the problem is people that drive into police officers, abandon their children or bring a gun to a law enforcement event then resist arrest. HN is full of activism these days and I’m tired of the support for vigilantism.

No the problem is bootlickers with less self-preservation skills than animals who bend over backwards to reject actual reality because they think they're in the billionaire pedophilic ruling class in-group when they're not.

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Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #330
helterskelter wrote: post #66

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> Republicans represent half the country This statement isn't necessarily wrong because about half of elected government officials are Republican, but I want to point out that less than 60% of eligible Americans voted in 2024, so we're talking about <30% of Americans who vote Republican.

And honestly, with a Congress that allows every state, irrespective of population, two Senators, it is somewhat skewed. I mean San Jose, California is about double the population of the entire state of Wyoming.

i don't know why this is downvoted, it's a legit complaint.

wyoming has ~800k people. ohio has 11 million. the greater NYC area (parts of NJ, CT, etc.) has ~22 million. california has 40 million.

and as a parent poster mentioned, just slightly 1/3 of eligible voters chose trump; if "no candidate" was a choice it may have one most states, beating out kamala and trump.

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

ljsprague wrote: post #722
fendy3002 wrote: post #710

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if there are massive frauds, DOGE should've revealed that. The fact that people keep spewing no investigation while there should be several times shows how ignorant people is.

DOGE would have found everything.

they took all of the data, including every SSN.

they weren't looking, they were stealing

Re: ICE using Palantir tool that feeds on Medicaid data

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Post by red-iron-pine »

callamdelaney wrote: post #765
kjellsbells wrote: post #240

FWIW, people here illegally are already not eligible for Medicaid, [0] so it's hard to see why ICE having access to a roster of Medicaid enrollees would help them with their stated mission of enforcing removal orders. Then again, we have ICE shooting American citizens in the streets, so I guess the law is whatever they decide it is, not least because our legislative branch is uninterested in laws. https://www.congres…

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