Let’s also not forget the introduction of unnecessary and confusing icons: https://tonsky.me/blog/tahoe-icons/
The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe
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#842I know most wont care but to me the biggest red flag was when they changed the cursor stem to be like the windows cursor stem, it's angled geometrically correct but when you actually stare at it then it looks wonky and wrong. It's one of those things an amateur designer would assume is correct because theoretically it is but a talented designer knows the angle has to be off to feel correct.
It looks wrong because it isn't symmetrical. If you go into System Settings -> Accessibility -> Display increase your pointer size, screenshot it, and rotate it, you can see that it's not symmetrical. It looks wonky because it is wonky.
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#843Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suppose it’s exactly the programmer’s job to make sure cursor grabs the edge of the curved window border, not the arbitrary point outside.
Is that something the programmer decides or are they just implementing what the designer decided?
At a place like Apple, I can bet that it's not like some contract engineering shop where a blob of programmers just sit there blindly implementing whatever is written by someone else in Jira tickets. The final product that ships in the OS is going to be the result of massive, often heated negotiation between HI and the engineering DRI. A huge change to the look and feel is unlikely to be implemented if there's strenuous objection from engineering leadership.
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#844Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I find the lifecycle of Apple products to be offensively short, also. Apple is miles ahead of Android when it comes to phones and tablets, most in the Android ecosystem is e-waste four or five years in, while Apple stuff can still be re-sold for actual money at that time assuming you didn't bust your screen. For laptops, Apple is so far ahead it can't even be described. Most Windows laptops physically break apart b…
>Apple is miles ahead of Android And Mussolini wasn't nearly as bad as Hitler. A relative measure like this sets an artificially low bar. If these devices had replaceable screens and batteries, they would be good until the mobile standards stopped being supported.
> And Mussolini wasn't nearly as bad as Hitler.
Damn, I haven't seen an instance of Godwin's law outside of political threads for years in the wild.
> If these devices had replaceable screens and batteries, they would be good until the mobile standards stopped being supported.
The problem is, even replaceable components don't matter when the OS support drops and the device becomes a bad netizen as a result. And no, there is no viable FOSS competition to Android and iOS, many including giants such as Mozilla learned that lesson the hard way.
And that's before getting into the whole issue with BSPs, horrible code quality (good luck trying to get any SoC BSP upstreamed to u-boot or god forbid the Linux kernel), or the rapid evolution in mobile SoC performance.
Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe
#845This is why I’m always wait as long as possible to update major versions, seems like there is fuckups big and small in every single major macOS update.
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#846Tahoe is a macOS mis-step on par with Windows 8 or Windows Vista. If you’re from Apple and reading this, my feedback is pretty succinct: “I don’t recommend others upgrade. I wish I didn’t.” Luckily for Apple, Windows 11 is not exactly in a position to attract switchers. Let’s see if Apple can turn things around. iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits.
> iOS 8+ did improve on iOS 7’s worst bits
Or iOS 8 and 9 did revert back a lot of iOS 7 changes.
I am not against changing UI, but it seems every time they are doing it they forgot all the lesson learned from previous attempt, and in such short period of time suggest they haven't learned anything.
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#847Earlier quoted context omitted.
User friendliness isnt that bad depending on distro, configuration is fine, but not great.
The big problem isn't friendliness, it's that you don't buy a laptop with it installed. Most people are not realistically going to install a different operating system, they're going to use the one the laptop comes with.
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#848I swear, this reign of visual artists as dictators has to stop. I'm sure people noticed this issue internally and brought it up but some thing by some designer was seen as biblically sacred and overruled all reason. I've been at companies were you get severely punished... sometimes fired for subordination for fixing an obviously broken spec by a designer emperor. It's normal to be "I guess 2+2=5 here, whatever" as if…
> fixing an obviously broken spec
Going off spec is not the correct way to deal with this, and I could see how that might get you in trouble. It's counter productive.
Better choice is to escalate, but at some point you have to simply disagree and commit.
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#849Earlier quoted context omitted.
History always repeats itself. The young generation always thinks the old generation was rubbish and they have nothing to learn from them and can do better.
And the elder generation is always convinced that the young generation is degenerate, incompetent, and destined for ruin.
And yet, sometimes the criticism is warranted, and sometimes it's not. That's why it's good not to overgeneralize about patterns.
Re: The struggle of resizing windows on macOS Tahoe
#850My biggest peeve with macOS Tahoe is the App Launcher redesign. It seems like a clear regression in usability. By moving from a high-density, full-screen experience to a constrained, scrolling window, they’ve increased the interaction cost for launching apps via the mouse. It feels like a 'unification tax. Sacrificing desktop utility to align with non-Desktop modalilties. Does anyone see a functional upside here, or…
> It feels like a 'unification tax. Sacrificing desktop utility to align with non-Desktop modalilties
No. Launchpad is just the iOS springboard brought to Mac, with big icons and folders and pages. When it was added people complained of "iOS-ification".
This time they made a proper, unique Mac equivalent, integrated in Spotlight and built around the keyboard. It's not as good, the window was too small in 26.0, doesn't support uninstallation like Launchpad, but it's definitely less iOS-like.