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Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by tome »

sh34r wrote: post #839
jacquesm wrote: post #785

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Haskell is interesting, it is probably one of the best programming languages ever devised but it just can't seem to gain traction. There are some isolated pockets where it does well (both business wise as well as geographically).

I like Haskell, but I never want to work with Haskellers, ever again. I’ll do personal / solo Haskell projects. But never professionally on a team. Haskellers are not team players. Rustaceans should really take Haskell as a cautionary tale. It doesn’t matter how good your tech is, if your community is actively hostile to newcomers, if you try to haze every newcomer by making them recite your favorite monad definition…

That's a rather drastic generalization! As a counterpoint I've worked on professional teams with, what, 20 or 30 different Haskellers over the years and the number of "toxic, dramatic, dogmatic people" in that set is zero (or one if I really stretch the definition, and then only dogmatic, not toxic or dramatic). None were poor at their jobs, and the proportion of truly excellent software engineers with deep capability in the hard and soft skills needed to get code shipped was far greater than 50%.

That said, if toxic behavior occurs it can be more visible in smaller communities, just by how the numbers work out, so I don't doubt you've had a hard time interacting with some Haskellers, and I sympathize with you. Please point me to any toxic behavior you see in the public Haskell community and I'll do my best to address it with whatever authority I have.

Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by SSLy »

bmicraft wrote: post #315
SSLy wrote: post #224

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It's extremely hard to build any unixly userspace without perl dependencies.

I really do wonder who (as in "which packages") still depends on perl. Surely it can't be that many? Edit: On my (Arch) system removing perl requires removing: auto{conf,make}, git, llvm, glibmm, among others.

excuse the late reply, but check what requires perl as a makedep

Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by CursedSilicon »

mos87 wrote: post #835
CursedSilicon wrote: post #765

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Being called a "concern troll" for daring to question such a bizarre accusation makes me think it's just a bunch of weird losers

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Oh. So you're just transphobic. Got it

Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by dplm »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #614
iurbwdj wrote: post #394

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It involved large parts of the Rust community, and the famous Rust developer Hector Martin (with an alter ego of Asahi Lina, a female vtuber, which he appears irrationally embarrassed about), harassing others. Even Linus Torvalds called out Hector Martin. https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/6/1292 > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 at 01:19, Hector Martin wrote: > > If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, becaus…

Is there any evidence "Asahi Lina" is Hector?

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Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by CursedSilicon »

dplm wrote: post #844
CursedSilicon wrote: post #614

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Is there any evidence "Asahi Lina" is Hector?

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If by "forum" you mean one of the most vile places on the internet. Sure

Also interesting "first post" for a 13 hour old account...

Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by leadingthenet »

CursedSilicon wrote: post #763
leadingthenet wrote: post #757

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At this point I suspect anyone who even asks that question of concern trolling. The evidence is overwhelming.

That's a weird way to avoid providing evidence :)

You're right: I didn't answer the question, because I suspect it was asked in bad faith to begin with, given that a simple online search would yield ample evidence. Much of which has already been discussed here on HN.

Given that you've dismissed said evidence provided in other comments as not compelling and/or you attacked the source without addressing the evidence, I think my concern was well placed.

Re: Rust in the kernel is no longer experimental

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Post by CursedSilicon »

dplm wrote: post #846
CursedSilicon wrote: post #845

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If by "forum" you mean one of the most vile places on the internet. Sure Also interesting "first post" for a 13 hour old account...

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I don't consider the opinions of a bunch of deranged children "evidence"

They're too busy lying to themselves about what they did to Byuu/Near

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