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Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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I never imagined that a service that ships DVD via mail would one day buy Warner Brothers. It is amazing how innovation and focus can change the game. Someday a new startup will piggy bank on Netflix and probably buy it later.

It's less "innovation and focus" and more "wealth consolidation and monopolization".

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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> Someday a new startup will piggy bank on Netflix and probably buy it later. I think what history shows us is that the modern monopolies managed to destroy antitrust to the point where nobody will ever do to them what they did to others.

People said that a generation ago as well, and the one before that. Yeah monopolies make it hard, but every one of them eventually crumbles to the next wave of innovation.

So innovative, the toilets have cameras in them now! I love the future.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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I think such is the reality of serving a large customer base on something subjective like movies and TV. Most people would find most content not that appealing, and a small subset they like. The problem is everyone's small subject are different. It's like having a restaurant that serves 300 million people. You can try to offer every type of food there is, but most people may not like most of them. Which is fine, as l…

I think you are true to a point. But great movies get almost universal praise with scores of 9/10 on IMDb or near 100% on Rotten Tomatoes. The same goes for food; there are things that are quite controversial, but who says no to fantastic ice cream or bread? But most importantly for movies, it is not the micro-genre that decides. People who are not into fantasy or astrology still love Lord of the Rings or Interstella…

Yea but those are typically self selected sets. People that are interested in that particular type of movies watches it and rates it highly. But if you only offered that movie to the entire population, likely a large portion of the population won't want to watch it.

For example, The Shawshank Redemption has very high rating on IMDB, but also many people have never seen it and are not interested in watching it.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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Consolidations like this were bound to happen. In the mid 2010s we had a good thing, only one streaming platform with pretty much every movie and tv show. Then every studio got greedy and spawned their own platform, forcing netflix to produce their own shows. Now you have 20 tv networks all with their own subscription and all losing money.

Yeah, turns out when you neglect antitrust laws, you get monopolies. We are doomed to learn this lesson the hard way over and over again, forever.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

#845

Consolidations like this were bound to happen. In the mid 2010s we had a good thing, only one streaming platform with pretty much every movie and tv show. Then every studio got greedy and spawned their own platform, forcing netflix to produce their own shows. Now you have 20 tv networks all with their own subscription and all losing money.

Daniel Ek got it right, you can all but eradicate piracy with good service. The inverse holds true as well

The irony being all the pirated music he sold along the way.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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> Combination Will Offer More Choice and Greater Value for Consumers, Create More Opportunities for the Creative Community and Generate Shareholder Value No doubt about the last part, but how does merging two giants create "More Choice"? I know corporate double-speak is already out of control and I know they're writing whatever they can do avoid regulators who surely are looking into the acquisition, but surely these…

I think that wording is targeted at anti-trust regulators.

Only when it's written in the memo line of the lobbying cheque.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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I don't like this. Netflix rarely creates excellent content; instead, it frequently produces mediocre or worse content. Will the same happen for Warner? Are cinemas now second behind streaming? Edit: I agree Netflix has good Originals. But most are from the early days when they favored quality over quantity. It is sad to see that they reversed that. They have much funding power and should give it to great art that re…

I think Netflix's incentives, especially now that they have an ad tier, have changed. With a subscription service 10 years ago, you just need to have enough must-see content: - Original scripted TV series that become mainstream known and/or seen as prestige TV, like "The Crown," "Mindhunter," "Bridgerton," "Stranger Things" etc. - "Crown Jewel" reruns with huge fanbases such as The Office, Friends, Seinfeld, Modern F…

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Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

#848

As long as David Zaslav is kicked to the curb instead of given power inside Netflix, this could still be a win for the world. I don't know how else we were going to get him out of there. Heck, Netflix might actually promote Our Flag Means Death! (HBO being so terrible at modern promotion is what ultimately got them to this place. I found multiple series I really enjoyed there, but always by total accident scrolling a…

Nope apparently part of the appeal of the netflix offer was that he is given a seat at WB netflix.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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With the current administration, anything can be legal. Besides, they still have plans to spin off the cable networks, so this would mostly concern the streaming assets, movie studio, and the IP.

The merger needs to be accepted by other markets, too. No offense but I find it quite amusing how Americans keep forgetting about that.

The threat of sanctions and drone strikes usually makes everyone pretty friendly.

Re: Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros

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I want a separation between the streaming platform companies and the content making companies, so that the streaming companies can compete on making a better platform/service and the content companies compete on making better content. I don't want one company that owns everything, I want several companies that are able to license whatever content they want. And ideally the customer can choose between a subscription t…

This is how it worked a decade+ ago, when there was still alpha to be had on providing better streaming service. It was great and we got things like the Netflix Prize and all sorts of content ranking improvements, better CDN platforms, lower latency and less buffering, more content upgraded to HD and 4K. Plus some annoying but clearly effective practices like auto-play of trailers and unrelated shows. Now these are a…

> there is no one big "subscription that includes everything"

You're right, but the switching cost is super easy, and _most_ of the time, these networks aren't putting out new content that I care that much about, so I've found it easiest to just swap services, keeping one subscription active at a time, and then switching again when I've finished watching everything interesting on the next.

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