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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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post #793

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I don't get the outrage either. He was sentenced to 4 months in prison. He already served that time and got out. So what does a parden get him? No criminal record? This pardon seems rather minor to me.

He can run Binance again.

True, but is that an injustice? Is it likely to happen?

He was accused of not having adequate know your customer compliance measures to prevent money laundering.

Not like he stolen customer funds.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#842
post #50

Coffeezilla video about this is up already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMEJTORMVN4

I can't believe the dominant country is running this timeline.

Give it a few years. The US ceding its dominance by trying to re-follow its 1970s/80s playbook (now with less Volcker!) in a 2024+ world will go down as one of the biggest geopolitical own-goals of all time.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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post #233

The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

That might be true, but CZ is a good candidate for a pardon. Did you know before Gensler went after him at the SEC he asked CZ for a job and was rejected?

What does that have to do with anything? Executive branch leaders can have both individual lives and public responsibilities.

If anything, it's better he was rejected for the job, as getting it would have provided an incentive to bury the prosecution.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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post #823

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Wasn't that because there was a high chance of trump going after biden's son when he was in power, making up whatever charges he needed just as a power play?

no one should be above the law. Also it's not like the democrat did not weaponize the justice to put trump in jail for 4 consecutive years.

> Also it's not like the democrat did not weaponize the justice to put trump in jail for 4 consecutive years.

Trump went to jail? News to me.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#845

It feels like HN is slowly turning into reddit with the comment section becoming mostly snide remarks Instead of just commenting about being dismayed with the state of things, how about step back and speculate as to why he did this pardon, and what the implications of it are. I don't know the answer to either, but I surely didn't learn much from what used to be an insightful, intelligent crowd

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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While it’s true that the Department of Justice sits within the executive branch, the assertion that it is simply “subordinate” to the President - functioning as his personal legal arm - is an oversimplification that misses both the design and evolution of constitutional governance. The President does not have unlimited authority over the DOJ. The DOJ’s powers are exercised pursuant to laws enacted by Congress, and it…

> While it’s true that the Department of Justice sits within the executive branch, the assertion that it is simply “subordinate” to the President - functioning as his personal legal arm - is an oversimplification that misses both the design and evolution of constitutional governance. The idea of the republic as opposed to a monarchy is that no part of the government is anyone's personal ...well, anything ...but that…

The de facto absolute Presidential authority over DoJ stems from two powers:

1. The ability to dismiss the Attorney General at will (alternative: Congress)

2. The ability to pardon at will (alternative: Congress)

Remove those two Presidential powers, and the DoJ becomes much more independent.

Imho, the DoJ side of the judiciary branch is important enough to the separation of powers that this should have been done a long time ago.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.

Pardons by American presidents: - Bill Clinton: 459 - George W. Bush: 200 - Barack Obama: 1,927 - Donald Trump (first term): 237 - Joe Biden: 4,245 - Donald Trump (second term): 1,600 Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_or_gra...

Off the top of my head regarding Biden's numbers: https://apnews.com/article/biden-commutes-2500-nonviolent-dr...

"he is seeking to undo “disproportionately long sentences compared to the sentences they would receive today under current law, policy, and practice.”

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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post #574

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It has. But the breadth and depth of how they're being used by this one in particular is really far, far worse than other recent ones of both parties.

Wide pardoning with autopen was both heavy and illegal

Trump has his executive orders explained to him right before he signs them.

Yesterday he was asked about this pardon and barely knew what was going on:

  “I believe we’re talking about the same person, because I do pardon a lot of people. I don’t know. He was recommended by a lot of people,” Trump said.[0]
The Biden autopen-shadow-government conspiracies are hilarious, though. Every accusation is a confession with MAGAs.

0: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house/3861521/...

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Trump is a corrupt idiot and a terrible president, but the White House controversy is dumb too. I'm sure the addition will be ugly like everything Trump builds, but that building is not exactly a historic artifact that mustn't be mutated. It's been gutted more than once.

Bit like suggesting the controversy over bombing boats in the Caribbean is dumb because the U.S. has bombed ships before. The way it's happening is completely unprecedented and absurd.

Comparing extra judicial murders to tearing down part of a building is absurd, please get a grip.
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