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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by johnnyanmac »

zahlman wrote: post #715
Aurornis wrote: post #644

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> - If you post on /r/conservative you can expect to receive a bunch of bans from unrelated (popular) subs. Doesn't matter what you posted, being associated with that subs "taints" your account enough for some moderators. You left out the fact that you can’t post to /r/conservative until the moderators there audit your post history and perform an interview with you to confirm your ideology matches theirs. If someone…

> You left out the fact that you can’t post to /r/conservative until You present this as if it were somehow evidence that somehow justifies the bans from the other unrelated subs. There is no morally justifiable reason why having mainstream conservative viewpoints (which is to say, ones held by a very large fraction of the general populace) should bar someone from non-political participation in non-political subreddi…

>There is no morally justifiable reason why having mainstream conservative viewpoints (which is to say, ones held by a very large fraction of the general populace) should bar someone from non-political participation in non-political subreddits.

Rule 1 of site guidelines includes:

>Communities and users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.

And given the conservaive mindset as of late in the US against trans people and undocumented workers, you can see the issue you run into.

I do disagree with banning off-sub behavior, though. you can use it to tag users and keep a closer eye on them, but moderators moderate their own space, not the entire site.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by saaaaaam »

trilogic wrote: post #823
greenshackle wrote: post #819

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You're not making much sense. Anyone googling the domain and following the link can plainly see there is adult content being served from there. No amount of insisting that it doesn't is gonna help you. If you own the domain, it looks like your site was hacked or your domain hijacked. That is the problem you need to deal with.

Why is it so hard to understand... The domain and the website is not ours anymore, we let it go June 2025. Someone else bought it and is using it with malicious intentions to discredit and damage us. The website offers illegal services but in the description is talking about our company. Is hiding behind Cloud Flare with HQ in San Francisco. Is not anymore in our hands, now the authorities are investigating it.

So you forgot to renew your domain and someone is squatting it? That’s not at all the same as what you claimed earlier.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by LexiMax »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #835
LexiMax wrote: post #781

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> They run it like a propaganda outlet, only allow approved thought from approved commenters, and ban anyone who steps out of line with the mods. When almost any community is particular about who it lets in and who it doesn't let in, it can be seen as a reasonable moderator precaution. Heck, some of the very best social spaces I'm a part of are only accessible by knowing people who know people. But Reddit at it's cor…

>there's nothing stopping an outside mob from trying to control a narrative by mass voting in a way that mods have little to no control over. if it's really persistent they can't. Votes are one of the few mechanisms mods have no control over in their sub. But in general, mods can remove any post they don't like, even if it gets voted against their wishes, as well as ban any users posting such posts. Do that for a few…

Platforms like Discord give their moderators much more power and discretion, while removing mechanisms for users for protest them. Despite this, Discord largely succeeds in facilitating social spaces for its users.

The biggest reason why this works is that even though users have fewer recourses against power-tripping mods, it also takes away the moderator's leverage of being the tastemakers of content aggregation that Reddit/HN/Slashdot mods and power users have. Without content aggregation, it's a lot easier for social circles to cleanly split if there are disagreements.

I also think that the fact that Discord servers are opaque works to its benefit. The openness of Reddit leads to a lot of cross-subreddit co-mingling, which invariably leads to drama and conflict. There's a lot less of this happening on Discord - it's not zero, but it's to the extent that posting discord conversations outside of their servers is widely considered "leaking" and Discord actively uses legal avenues to go after dragnet-style log archives.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mountainriver »

quesera wrote: post #657
mountainriver wrote: post #640

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I got permanently banned from Reddit for participating in a thread debating the death penalty. In which I wrote one comment suggesting we shouldn’t waste a bunch of court costs on mass shooters who are blatantly guilty. That was considered “instigating violence” lol

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> To be fair, that's an objectively degenerate suggestio

You should be a Reddit mod lol

This is an "objectively sane" comment that got a lot of upvotes actually

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by mountainriver »

mrguyorama wrote: post #762
mountainriver wrote: post #640

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I got permanently banned from Reddit for participating in a thread debating the death penalty. In which I wrote one comment suggesting we shouldn’t waste a bunch of court costs on mass shooters who are blatantly guilty. That was considered “instigating violence” lol

Depending on how you wrote or worded it, that IS instigating violence. "We should just execute them and save money" is instigating violence. If you aren't willing to spend resources because it's "obvious" to you, you do not care about Justice. Cops always think they got the right guy, and they are regularly blatantly wrong, including for people on death row.

Talking about procedures and sentencing for a heinous crime isn't instigating violence lol. Is sending people to prison instigating violence? I really expected more from the HN crowd but this place has obviously deteriorated

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by smcin »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #305
smcin wrote: post #277

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No, incentives aim for whatever gives a return - not an objective neutral verdict-of-the-crowd. It requires a regulator to be active. Read about the whale trades and wash trades on Polymarket: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41999743

Yes the incentive alignment is what I was referring to when I mentioned that prediction markets have their own issues. I'm not convinced wash trading is a huge problem as it's mostly about generating fake volume. The particular linked example is bad too because Trump did end up winning the election.

I said Polymarket doesn't give an objective neutral verdict-of-the-crowd at some moments, since their markets are still fairly small and can be moved short-term by whale trades.

An example is how volatile their markets are on Fed rate decisions; sometimes you see serious short-term disagreement or contrarianism between individual markets:

https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025

https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-october

https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-december

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by cestith »

alittlebee wrote: post #827
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #722

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Trans related topics are expressly against TOC and enforced unless a subreddit is ruthless in removing any comments that aren't expressly positive and affirming. There is no room for nuance on this topic. Just giving an example.

As a trans person, I find it interesting that so many people have opinions on an illness that truly sucks. It’s rough reading every day that you are “wrong” about something you suffer from. I wish folks could see the losses we experience when we transition. I think if they did, they might extend a little more grace and compassion. (That said, I do agree with you on nuance)

Nuance is not a popular thing in the US in recent decades. The false dichotomy appears to be more than our collective favorite logical fallacy, but some people’s favorite avocation.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by malfist »

michaelnovati wrote: post #364
sesm wrote: post #269

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What happened in 2024 that changed your mind?

This: https://web.archive.org/web/20240418095904/https://www.codes... I paused my recommendation to wait to see if they did what they said they would do. In my opinion they did not, so I then removed my recommendation.

Wait, so you went on a year plus long, single person crusade against a company because.....they offered remote learning options?

That's the straw that broke the camels back? What a weird thing to decide to destroy a company over.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by cestith »

testdelacc1 wrote: post #820
debtta wrote: post #809

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Obviously this is not what the posting history of a state-sponsored disinformation actor looks like.

Obviously. Please tell us why an account with a history of posting on Iranian subs was masquerading as a British person, getting British people riled up at 4am BST? And why did they delete the account immediately after this was pointed out? State sponsored doesn’t necessarily mean they’re highly competent.

People forget there are certain special interest groups and even individuals that have more resources to back such a campaign than many nation states. One such individual regularly promises his followers to change the results of his own LLM to match their beliefs, regardless of original training data.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by Workaccount2 »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #834
Workaccount2 wrote: post #704

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Lets go down to /r/conservative and throw rocks at them for being dumb was a pretty popular activity for people. For anyone who has been on reddit for any length of time, it should be abundantly obvious why the sub needs extremely heavy moderation. That sub is like having an LGBTQ tent at a redneck festival.

There's heavy moderation, and then there's enforcing propaganda. If you really want to look there during controversial issues, you'll see even long time posters get comments removed when it goes against whatever agenda they want to push. That's no longer a matter of trying to facilitate unpopular discussion.

But that's just reddit in general.
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