All it'll do is replace competent workers who don't have $100k to spare, with incompetent workers who have the money.
False dichotomy. Why would only incompetent workers have the 100k to spare?
Trump to impose $100k fee for H-1B worker visas, White House says
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#842This might be one of the smarter things this administration has done/is doing. It will cut down on fraud, and ensure the position they're hiring for isn't just some mid-level engineer. H1B applications should be a source of tax revenue, beyond standard taxes. I sort of wish it had been done 15 years ago but better late then never.
I personally think it will be abused to bring in highly undesirable people , because it will turn into a $100k ticket for criminals.
Of course, that's pretty much how the current administration thinks, see also the "Gold card visa" (1).
Specifically, the thinking "Money coming to us is desirable, therefor people who give us lots of money are by definition not undesirable people".
Well, at least dollars are more easily quantified than ethics.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/19/trump-gold-card-vis...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/the-...
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#843The $100,000 fee isn't the real route to a visa. See the proclamation text: [1] (c) The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines, in the Secretary’s discretion, that the hiring of such aliens to be employed as H-1B specialty oc…
I see, they're just redirecting the firehose.
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#844Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is so absolutely fundamental to US strategic advantage. A huge reason we have so many unicorns is because doing business and scaling in the US is easier than EU or other places. A huge part of why the Manhattan Project was successful was also because of substantial brain drain from Europe. I think Scott Galloway wrote about this or may have popularized it.
I've read brain drain in this thread multiple times. I might agree this happened back then, but I don't know what people mean by it right now. Where is the term coming from suddenly and why is it used to uncritical?
"Where is the term coming from suddenly"
I don't think it's new, I've been hearing it my whole life
"and why is it used to uncritical?"
I ... can't figure out what this means.
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#845Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is so absolutely fundamental to US strategic advantage. A huge reason we have so many unicorns is because doing business and scaling in the US is easier than EU or other places. A huge part of why the Manhattan Project was successful was also because of substantial brain drain from Europe. I think Scott Galloway wrote about this or may have popularized it.
If you're only talking about the exceptional sure. But when Microsoft fires x and applies for ~x H1Bs the same day... That doesn't seem like what you're talking about at all. If an employee is exceptional and a skilled unicorn wrangler... 100K is nothing.
Part of the problem is you don't know ahead of time (certainly not with 100% certainty) who's going to be an exceptional unicorn wrangler, and who's just going to be a pretty good engineer, unless they already have an incredible track record elsewhere. This will filter out a lot of possible future unicorn wranglers.
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#846I think there’s plenty of interesting debates to be had about immigration policy and its effects on the labor market, but one thing worth noting here is that the primary problem that damn near every other country on earth has isn’t immigration, it’s brain drain. A core strategic strength of the US over the last century has been that everyone with any talent wants to come here to work, and by and large we’ve let them…
The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…
Sure, show us the numbers you got from your "further readings".
Plenty of peeps are being much more factual below, compared to the gvt linguo that you are just rehashing rn
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#847Earlier quoted context omitted.
The top end of H1B has been great for America. In the last few decades, there has been growth of abuse of the program to get mid level talent at below market rates which really hurts the middle class in America. People need to understand that most reformists don't want to get rid of the truly exceptional immigration to the US. We need to limit the volume, especially the immigrants that are directly competing with a h…
The hollowing out of the middle class in the US isn't because of immigrants, it's because of a sustained campaign by capital to reduce the power of labor over the last 50-odd years and to concentrate wealth as best they can. Immigrant labor contributes to that because we've got inadequate labor protections and because we bought into the idea that lower consumer prices was a fine reason to ignore both labor and antitr…
If by hollowing you mean the reduction of the size of the middle class, it is because it has become richer, not poorer over time, so I don't think your take is right.
https://www.pewresearch.org/race-and-ethnicity/2024/05/31/th...
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#848Earlier quoted context omitted.
One man's rising gas prices are another man's oil industry boom. The H1B process is unfair to engineers because it drives down their compensation in a way that doesn't affect nurses or welders. If immigration were completely irrespective of profession and based solely around whether the imported laborers get paid enough to contribute more than they receive in taxes/public services, nobody would have any standing to c…
Software developer salaries are still extremely high in the US. So I would doubt that this has had a huge effect.
The median is like 140k. Is that extremely high? I know some cops who make more.
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#849The US has 340m people. There is absolutely no way they need people from other countries to fill their entry-level roles.
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