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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by skinkestek » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:24 PM UTC

zidel wrote: post #740

toomim wrote: post #579

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That is a rebuttal of the International Association of Genocide Scholars[0] resolution from August[1], not this UN report. [0] https://genocidescholars.org [1] https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS...

And for anyone who isn't aware yet:

To become a member of IAGS the qualifications are:

Pay $30 in membership fees.

Until recently the membership lists were open.

They closed after people started to screenshot and share that a person who called himself Adolf Hitler was a member there.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by dang » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:25 PM UTC

pxc wrote: post #226

Comments on this post are disabled for new accounts, but in the era of anti-BDS regulation and other measures aimed specifically at curtailing practical freedom of speech surrounding this conflict, can we really comment freely on this without anonymity? The vast majority (38/50) of US states have passed some form of anti-BDS legislation. We can also expect corporate retaliation against employees who speak about this…

> Comments on this post are disabled for new accounts

I put that restriction on the thread when I started to notice brand new accounts showing up to post abusively (call them trolls if you like). There's no intention to prevent legit anonymous comments, but we have to do what we can to protect this place from complete conflagration. I'll turn that restriction off now.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by octopoc » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:29 PM UTC

Cornbilly wrote: post #805

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

The current US administration also derives a lot of its support from evangelical Christians, who have a belief that Israel must exist in order for Jesus to return to earth. Which I’m sure he’d be a fan of all the lying and killing that was done to make that happen…

Not all evangelical Christians are like this. There are two main branches: covenantal and dispensational. Dispensational theology is basically the same thing as Christian Zionism, and was invented in the 1800s by John Darby and his followers[1]. Covenantal theology goes way further back and is still popular today. For example Presbyterians are a major covenantal denomination.

[1] https://aish.com/unlikely-zionists-the-fascinating-story-of-...

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by belter » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:34 PM UTC

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

It is incredibly interesting, your have US Congressman coming into the US Congress, in an IDF Uniform.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by darthrupert » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:34 PM UTC

King-Aaron wrote: post #629

prawn wrote: post #555

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For anyone else not familiar with "anti-BDS": "Anti-BDS laws are legislation that retaliate against those that engage in Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. With regard to the Arab–Israeli conflict, many supporters of the State of Israel have often advocated or implemented anti-BDS laws, which effectively seek to retaliate against people and organizations engaged in boycotts of Israel-affiliated entities." From Wikipe…

From a historical, economic, social perspective... Why does Israel hold so much power over the world?

Arab nations have made invasions to Europe on a regular basis throughout history. That practically stopped when Israel was created.

Israel has been an amazing success for Western security.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #775

the_origami_fox wrote: post #676

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There are many issues raised with the report, including it omits the invasion by the government of Gaza, Hamas, on 7 October 2023 entirely, and it omits that the Israeli army is fighting the army of Gaza, the Qasam brigades, who had 40,000 salaried fighters (pre-war), have fired thousands of missiles, developed hundreds of kilometres of tunnels specifically for urban warfare, and subverted public and private infrastr…

Is it actually relevant? It's not about why israel fights but about how they fight. The report is not about the conflict at large but about how exactly israel is handling day to day operations.

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Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by bigyabai » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

ukblewis wrote: post #625

bix6 wrote: post #92

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Is there a specific report arguing that Israel is not committing genocide? I don’t see it on the home page.

https://unwatch.org/un-watch-rebuttal-legal-analysis-of-pill... If you’re interested to see a rebuttal

UN Watch is a documented Israeli lobbying group, and was discredited decades ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20111222162658/https://www.googl...

I'd like to see a rebuttal from a government that isn't accused of genocide.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by _l7dh » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 5:06 PM UTC

kharak wrote: post #682

_l7dh wrote: post #618

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the number one cause of child mortality today is Israel.

That is an insane comment.

And yet, it's fact, just look at the numbers world-wide :(.

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by bix6 » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

AlecSchueler wrote: post #541

bix6 wrote: post #98

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Technology enables so many of these problems and yet the technology builders want to flag it off the face of the internet?

Hey stock prices might go down if you're not careful.

How will I afford my vegetables without my stocks?!?

Re: Top UN legal investigators conclude Israel is guilty of genocide in Gaza

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Post by LorenPechtel » Wed, Sep 17, 2025, 5:10 PM UTC

rf15 wrote: post #572

It is incredibly interesting how the US (and Germany) have put so much into Israel and associated groups they really don't want it to fail (despite the Israeli gov doing their damnest to facilitate just that). In my understanding Israel, in the eyes of the US, is a convenient "wedge" in the Arab space that allows for easier power projection in the area, plus they have a healthy amount of zionists close to money and p…

1) Israel serves as a lightning rod. Much of the Islamist violence is directed at them rather than at the rest of the world.

2) Israel is a nuclear power. You think they'll let themselves be exterminated (and that's what their opponents want) without using their bombs?