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Re: iPhone Air

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Post by paintbox »

AndrewSwift wrote: post #780

It's wild to see the HN crowd, bleeding-edge technologists, regularly bring up "lying flat on a table" as a critical feature for a supercomputer inside a camera that fits in your pocket. Somebody (many somebodies?) is rolling over in his grave.

"a supercomputer inside a camera that fits in your pocket" stopped being a novelty 15 years ago. We call it just "phone" now!

"lying flat on a table" is a critical feature for a device that on a daily basis lays on the table.

If it clanks and thuds every time you press it (and pressing it is the only way to use it) while lying on the table, then it is bad design that should be addressed.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by KronisLV »

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

I’d very much prefer a phone that’s shaped like a slab (smooth back), no weird camera plateaus and no sad excuse for a battery, but something that can last days.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by flakeoil »

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

The issue with size I have with phones is that they are too high, so I cannot have it in my jeans front pocket and then sit down.

Thinness has not been an issue in the last 10-15 years.

A thin phone is also very hard to hold, it kind of flips in your hand.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by freetime2 »

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

> My iPhone 11 still feels very much good enough (which I imagine must be terrible for Apple)

I think Apple has come to terms with the fact that people are no longer upgrading their phones every 1-2 years. They are probably happy just to keep you in the Apple ecosystem where they can sell you apps, services, accessories, other compatible apple products - and hopefully get your repeat business when you do one day feel the need to upgrade.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by Alifatisk »

Whenever Apple releases a new phone, I like to visit this page to actually compare it to previous models

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare

Also, It's a bummer that they didn't launch something for the mini series. I prefer smaller screens that fit into my pocket, I don't care about thinness. 13-mini will be the last iPhone I can upgrade to in a few years, after that I'll have to look into other phones

Another thing that stuck out, what's the point with having such a thin phone, yet the camera system points out? I would much prefer a complete flat backside

I'll vote with my wallet

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by aurareturn »

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

It's not just about thin. It's also about weight. The Air has a bigger screen but weighs less than the iPhone 17.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by staplor »

piskov wrote: post #174
superb-owl wrote: post #161

All I want is a 4-5 inch phone :( bring back the mini!

People get old. Old people cannot see small text. Big text requires bigger screen to fit. One could argue that a lot of 50-ish people have pro max with iphone 5-ish screen estate. Small screens ain’t gonna happen

Most people aren't old.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by camillomiller »

jdprgm wrote: post #187

Can someone that is actually interested in this explain the appeal? Thin on its own I get but thin with a giant bump 100% defeats the whole point for me. Seems clear at this point there is little hope of them engineering their way into thin cameras.

It's more about physics than hope. There's not much you can do with lenses miniaturization after a certain point (which we already reached). The result is more and more computational stuff, which Apple does somewhat gracefully, but still in a way that sets the iPhone photos apart from a camera, and not in a good way.

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by CjHuber »

alkonaut wrote: post #837

I'm going to add +1 to the crowd that thinks that almost no one ever said "Nice, but I wish it was thinner". Who would that be really? Surely apple made their market research before spending the R&D money creating this product. So presumably there is a market segment for it. But who is it? The standard 17 and Pro seems very much the great product they always are. Incremental refinement. Don't like it? Get one 1-2 gen…

Honestly I do. I want it thinner and lighter. I don’t use my phone very much so I don’t care about battery very much nor do I about any kind of specs. Wait… yeah that’s why I won’t buy it I love my iPhone 13 mini

Re: iPhone Air

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Post by knubie »

port11 wrote: post #808
nakamoto_damacy wrote: post #465

I have an iPhone 13 mini, just replaced the battery. If you want my money, give me an iPhone 17 mini with small width and height, I don't care about it being thinner like the Air. Also, no AI ruining the image quality of the expensive camera. I saw examples of a consumer-grade digital camera vs an iPhone 16 and the latter introduced "hotdog skin" effect and other effects that made the photos look over-processed.

I had the 12 mini. Perfect size, but awful battery life due to how thin they decided to make it. Give me a mini with more than half-day battery life and I'll queue on release day. Stop. Making. Things. Thinner.

If they just made the 12/13 mini ever so slightly thicker, it would obviate the camera bump and improve the battery life. /shrug I don't get.
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