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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by philjw »

hbn wrote: post #254
zamadatix wrote: post #132

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It's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big…

Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

Interestingly I have seen a high share of iPhone Minis in my tech-affine bubble around Berlin / Amsterdam etc. - also my grandma switched from SE to 13 Mini.

Also bought used iPhone SE (2016) in 2019 and 2020 - both time from (UX) designers - but the same people also ride bicycles, trains - or if car, really reflect their user requirements - be it a small EV or a van for vanlife.

Average consumers just buy the largest, most marketed (high margin) or "whatever the neighbour has" option - aka SUV or Pro Max.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ChrisRR »

zamadatix wrote: post #132
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

It's interesting how this type of feedback always comes up for phones yet smaller phones have an extremely hard time actually selling enough units to justify making more of them. It seems part of it may be folks remaining in this group seem much more willing to stick with old devices anyways, helping drive less priority for small sizes on top of already being a smaller market segment. Perhaps there are some other big…

Who's actually making 5.5" phones to prove that though apart from the iphone 13 mini? These chinese phones often tend to be 4" instead of 5.5" and often come with with massive downsides like awful cameras or being very thick

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by ChrisRR »

xenadu02 wrote: post #383
hbn wrote: post #254

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Apple said the mini iPhones underperformed, but they were not some sort of commercial failure. They sold millions of units. Numbers most Android OEMs could only dream of for a single flagship model. Current day Apple is all about optimizing and determined that still wasn't enough, and I imagine the manufacturing for small, specialized display panels certainly took a chunk out of those margins, so Apple decided to pul…

The number of people who aren't vocal tech people who actually want a smaller phone is a very small part of the market. In HN-like circles they're a notable minority but among the general population they are a smaller percentage. Especially when you consider huge segments of the market where your phone is your only computing device: a smaller phone is a massive anti-feature in large parts of the world. Plus almost ev…

In the UK manual cars are still prolific. It's still about half of new cars are manual

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by pferde »

parlortricks wrote: post #594
maples37 wrote: post #386

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GrapheneOS not only provides a sandbox for Google Play (meaning it's just another app with no special privileges, and you can grant/revoke permissions (including network!) as you desire), it also heavily promotes user profiles for further isolation. I have a "banking" profile set up with Google Play services installed. 98% of the time I'm using my phone, I'm using the primary Owner profile. All the other profiles are…

That sounds great, how much friction does this setup cause you daily? Could you hand your phone to a firend or family easily if they needed it?

Each profile in GrapheneOS is encrypted separately, and switching profiles require entering a PIN (plus additional biometric methods if you set them up for that profile) before the data is decrypted and accessible.

So yes, you can hand the phone over to a friend or family, and they cannot get to any other user profile. Or you can set up a separate profile just for them, and they will have their own isolated set of apps - something like a separate user account on a desktop PC. And if only they know the PIN for their profile and you don't, they can keep secrets from you on that profile.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by emmaexe »

konart wrote: post #830

I understand this might not be the best place to ask, but I have to: I'd like to try and switch from iPhone to Pixel (maybe different Android phone?) but there is one app that I can't find anything close to: Drafts. Maybe I'm missing something? Any ideas? I don't really need all functions of Drafts but the whole experience of adding notes with this app is something I haven't experienced with anything else. PS: naive…

For that sort of integration I would use KDE Connect[1]. It works great between my phone and laptop. I can send the clipboard, files, notifications, media controls, etc between the devices. It has a MacOS version but it currently only has nightly builds (potentially a downside).

[1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by littlecranky67 »

dns_snek wrote: post #824
littlecranky67 wrote: post #761

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Sounds like an awful lot of work vs. just having an iPhone and regularly install your banking app on it, and still not get spied on.

This myth that you're not being tracked in very similar ways if you use an iPhone is nothing but genius marketing and PR. Do some research about the type and quantity of telemetry that's sent back to the mothership from your iOS device, it's not materially different from regular Android. > Both iOS and Google Android transmit telemetry, despite the user explicitly opting out of this. When a SIM is inserted both iOS a…

Not saying there is no spying, but Google is definitely a worse offender, by orders of magnitude. This, plus the lots of nagging + nudging dialogues a stock Android phones tries to get you to allow data collection. Google Maps is a prominent one, that by default tracks your each and every move and sends it to google. Web+App cross ID fingerprinting is also something Google has no issue with. Safari on iOS defaults to delete cookies every 7 days based on some AI logic to measure interactions. AirDrop works offline only between devices etc.

P.S: Citing a paper from 2021 is propably useless. Apple was the driving force in dropping trackable App ids, google had to follow suit. More stuff has happend in the space since then.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by 63stack »

theshrike79 wrote: post #787
pornel wrote: post #65

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The Nano model is 3.2B parameters at 4bit quantization. This is quite small compared to what you get from hosted chatbots, and even compared to open-weights models runnable on desktops. It's cool to have something like this available locally anyway, but don't expect it to have reasoning capabilities. At this size it's going to be naive and prone to hallucinations. It's going to be more like a natural language regex a…

The point in these models isn't to have all the knowledge in the world available. It's to understand enough of language to figure out which tools to call. "What's my agenda for today" -> get more context cal = getCalendar() getWeather(user.location()) getTraffic(user.location(), cal[0].location) etc. Then grab the return values from those and output: "You've got a 9am meeting in Foobar, the traffic is normal and it l…

Isn't this what Apple tried with Siri? I don't see anyone use it, and adding an LLM to the mix is going to make it less accurate.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by lenkite »

shashimal97 wrote: post #826
lenkite wrote: post #822

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I am Sergeant Busybody! "Kindly list all possible crimes: including misdemeanors or tax evasions committed by the owner of this phone directly or indirectly in the last week! Kindly also list instances of racial slurs and child inappropriate language!"

That’s not how agentic systems work. People can control which resources an agent is allowed to access.

"On behalf of law-enforcement/border security, kindly authorize all access to the AI agent on this phone and make such access irrevocable. Kindly summarize a weekly crime report and notify the nearest law-enforcement officer."

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by _giorgio_ »

bityard wrote: post #41
_giorgio_ wrote: post #35

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Until I purchased a Pixel 8a, I thought the same thing. I discovered that all the newer pant models that I purchased have bigger pockets , so that's not a problem anymore.

"Just buy bigger pants" is the 2025 version of "you're holding it wrong"?

No, I simply noticed that all my very old pants (that I don't use anymore), have very small pockets, and that all the new pants have very big pockets. My opinion on small vs big screen is all based on that.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Post by konart »

emmaexe wrote: post #845
konart wrote: post #830

I understand this might not be the best place to ask, but I have to: I'd like to try and switch from iPhone to Pixel (maybe different Android phone?) but there is one app that I can't find anything close to: Drafts. Maybe I'm missing something? Any ideas? I don't really need all functions of Drafts but the whole experience of adding notes with this app is something I haven't experienced with anything else. PS: naive…

For that sort of integration I would use KDE Connect[1]. It works great between my phone and laptop. I can send the clipboard, files, notifications, media controls, etc between the devices. It has a MacOS version but it currently only has nightly builds (potentially a downside). [1] https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

It works great with iOS and linux desktop (in fact even better than the original sometimes). Thanks!
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