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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by Xss3 »

steine65 wrote: post #565
baobun wrote: post #555

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> Microsoft Office Doesn't even exist anymore. She's "365 Copilot" and web-first now. https://www.office.com/

Web version sucks compared to desktop version, unless you use the apps minimally. That said, the Winapps repo is a good linux solution, running a windows VM and accessing the office apps via RDP so they feel like a native app. As soon as it gets wayland support, I'm making the full switch. Winapps in Xwayland has some issues.

Protected Sharepoint docs are only openable with the desktop app too.

What is the business alternative to ms?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by sky2224 »

ObscureScience wrote: post #532
sky2224 wrote: post #521

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I get what you're saying, but the problem is the software does 90% of what I want really well and I like that they do that 90% super well and I want to keep that. In your Windows vs. Linux example, Linux just doesn't do a lot of things very well on the UI/UX side of things (e.g., window management, driver support, an out of the box experience). Knock Windows all you want, but it honestly does quite a few pretty impor…

>In your Windows vs. Linux example, Linux just doesn't do a lot of things very well on the UI/UX side of things (e.g., window management, driver support, an out of the box experience). That judgement confuses me a lot. Window management, drivers and out of the box experience has been much better in Linux for the last 10 years in my experience. Sure, there are some companies that don't ship drivers for Linux or the co…

With regard to window management, this will certainly depend on the distro. Ubuntu's WM has been quite good I'll admit, but that seems to have occurred in only pretty recent versions in the past 5 years or so. My previous experience with Ubuntu had the window management closer to the experience that MacOS provides (albeit slightly better). Ultimately, this point is subjective, so maybe it wasn't the best example.

Driver support is still a very big problem in my opinion, especially if you're a laptop user. There was a lot of tweaking with power configuration that I needed to do to prevent my laptop running Ubuntu 22.01 from dying in 2 hours. Additionally, trackpad drivers were horrendous, which made two-finger scrolling next to impossible to do with any sort of accuracy. Hardware accessories like printers, keyboards, etc. are still a gamble.

You're right though that it has gotten a lot better, but it's these little things that prevent most users from making the switch.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by physPop »

godelski wrote: post #839
al_borland wrote: post #66

Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.

> ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). People should do this for many reasons. Monopolies are not good for anyone, including Google[0]. For most people, that means installing Firefox or using Safari. There are others, but the space is small. Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. Truth is we like to complain. It's good to push things forward and find issues…

Safari is also not adblocker friendly. Lots of other entrants to try though. Brave in particular is great!

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by abandonliberty »

physPop wrote: post #843
godelski wrote: post #839

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> ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). People should do this for many reasons. Monopolies are not good for anyone, including Google[0]. For most people, that means installing Firefox or using Safari. There are others, but the space is small. Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. Truth is we like to complain. It's good to push things forward and find issues…

Safari is also not adblocker friendly. Lots of other entrants to try though. Brave in particular is great!

Adguard works fine? How are they not friendly?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by ale42 »

physPop wrote: post #843
godelski wrote: post #839

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> ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). People should do this for many reasons. Monopolies are not good for anyone, including Google[0]. For most people, that means installing Firefox or using Safari. There are others, but the space is small. Don't listen to people, Firefox is perfectly good and most people wont see major differences. Truth is we like to complain. It's good to push things forward and find issues…

Safari is also not adblocker friendly. Lots of other entrants to try though. Brave in particular is great!

But Brave is a Chromium browser, which is out of scope according to the comment.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by paulryanrogers »

yard2010 wrote: post #575
lucb1e wrote: post #303

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There is also an argument to be made that adblocking is immoral. I think the idea is pervasive enough to fill a team of willing people, especially if you pay them 100k/year to at least go along with it for the time being I haven't made up my own mind about it yet, just that this might be a factor in why one would move the facilitating technology backwards in this way (and forwards in other ways, apparently: some peop…

Lol. Treating cancer is immoral. Miss me with this shit!

Advertising is cancer?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by rasz »

lapcat wrote: post #659
rasz wrote: post #436

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There must be ways of injecting custom non static js because mv3 version of tampermonkey works https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tampermonkey/dhdgff...

After dragging their feet for literally years, Google finally implemented a specific userscripts API. However, the implementation was initially just statically declared rules like DeclarativeNetRequest, which sucked, and it also required that the user enable developer mode. In Chrome 135, which is very recent—the public is currently on Chrome 138—Google added an execute() method to run an individual script. However,…

Iv been following https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/issues/644 since 2020. I remember a moment in 2021 where Google came out with this ridiculous notion of User code stored on User computer and executed by User Agent being "remote" because it wasnt under Google control, but somewhere around 2022 things started clearing up and Jan Biniok managed to get a working mv3 version a year ago in May.

Surprisingly this async serialize/deserialize nature of the API (https://github.com/Tampermonkey/tampermonkey/blob/cdfc253c07... ?) somehow still manages to inject and execute scripts fast enough to make them act like content scripts at document_start. The only problem is no arbitration between extensions, cant force Tampermonkey inject before uBO (tons of adblock filters disable functions required for Tampermonkey and effectively kill Tampermonkey in the process).

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by Forgeties79 »

aetimmes wrote: post #685
aziaziazi wrote: post #606

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I can’t help seeing ad blockers as fairless content consumption, like choosing to download films, musics and books without paying the creator and the distributor (VOD, MOD, concerts, libraries…). Sounds great for you but how would that work if everyone would do the same? Although we all be happy to se more competition, using an ad blocker on Google sites (and G-add financed-sites) have no positive effect for the comp…

Running ad blockers for me is a matter of principle. The amount of tracking and telemetry that exists on the Internet is 1. massively invasive from a privacy perspective and 2. massively wasteful from an energy, bandwidth and time perspective. If you have something worth selling, then sell it.

Adblocking is security

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by ncr100 »

paulluuk wrote: post #703
qoez wrote: post #700

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I just tried firefox because of this update but I had to switch back because it's so slow. Sacrificing competitive advantage stings too much to much just for this.

Interesting, I also just installed Firefox because of OPs comment, and I'm amazed at how much faster it is then Chrome.

I've been satisfied with Firefox speed for several years, ever since Chrome manifest version 3 crap started to become reality.

I keep many browsers on my laptop and use whichever one I must for in-compatibility reasons and primarily Firefox which makes me generally a happy camper. Mac os.

Mobile is different.

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