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This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

He’s also the guy that triggered all of this by signing a presidential order to change TikTok ownership during his first run.

Does he have a coherent position on this that these actions support?

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Recent weeks frankly not a good show by US Judiciary.

The series of Trump indictments all fizzling out, because judges didn't want to indict an on coming president.

And on this particular matter, Supreme Court 'unsigned' opinion felt confused even though it is termed unanimous.

At places it seemed to complain of the paucity of time/scope to consider all parts of the matter more seriously, and at the end even expressed ambivalence about what is going to happen next even.

Frankly bit of shoddy-ness/confused signalling from Judiciary and Supreme Court.

Perhaps it would have been better to just delay the matter by issuing an interim extension and reconsider the issue taking into account the views of the new administration.

This was no urgent matter that a few days delay would have mattered.

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post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

The surprising part is that people are still surprised. Trump can do whatever he wants and there will be no pushback. We are talking about the guy who launched a meme coin a few days before taking office and made $50B+ overnight.

Is the US dollar going to survive this presidency? Honest question. I can easily see a path to replacing it with enough political/VC will.

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post #266

This seems to imply that the president elect can make unilateral guarantees contravening US law. That’s a surprising outcome.

Prepare yourself from many more surprises from this lawless regime. The US supreme court has already said he is immune from prosecution.

The future has been clearly telegraphed, and who is going to stop him?

In his own words years ago, he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his supporters would find excuses for him.

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The TikTok ban is worse for national security. It's trading in an imagined threat for a real threat. Though Xiaohongshu is having a cute little cultural exchange between Chinese people and Americans, there's so much more Chinese propaganda on that platform. I got recommended a few videos talking about Chinese/American wargames and how Americans were done for due to ultrasonic missiles and naval capabilities. You neve…

There are probably x10 America's propaganda on every social media sites, counting right-wing conservative politics alone.

exactly. This is typical western hypocrisy.

It's only propaganda because it's "them".

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The people pretending that the TikTok law is a speech issue are ignoring that no one was requiring TikTok to change their content at all. The law was written to allow for 0 impact on users if the CCP-connected parent company simply divested. Their preference to shut down instead of receiving tens of billions of dollars would be a clear violation of a company’s fiduciary duty to shareholders for any normal company. Bu…

I’m not arguing it’s a restriction on TikTok’s speech or bytedance’s speech. It’s a restriction on my speech. Telling me where I can publish a video? Telling me what apps I can download? Telling my software vendor what software they’re allowed to let me get? Telling internet providers what servers they’re allowed to let my device access? The law doesn’t fine TikTok. The law fines the people who let me download an app…

I get that you believe that's what's happening, but I can't imagine any US court agreeing with you.

The law (and the US constitution) does not guarantee any particular platform for your speech. It just guarantees that you can speak, and courts have interpreted that to mean that you need to have some reasonable platform, and that laws can't put an unreasonable burden on your ability to speak on some platform.

As an aside:

> Telling internet providers what servers they’re allowed to let my device access?

The law does not target internet providers at all. They are not required to block traffic to *.tiktok.com or any of their IP addresses.

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