Israel, Hamas reach ceasefire deal to end 15 months of war in Gaza

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:28 PM UTC

growthwtf wrote: post #292

boringg wrote: post #278

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They literally razed Bablyon to the ground including the entire population after over 15 months being under siege and afterwards trying to change the lands hydrology so that people couldn't resettle - probably one of the harshest destruction but not the only one. I guess its an improvement - not one thats remotely impressive.

Are you being metaphorical when you say literally? Or is this a reference to the conquest by Cyrus the Great? I'm not trying to be pedantic here. I'm just not familiar with any historical event you are describing. From what I've heard, and I'm not an expert, I wouldn't characterize any of the conquests of Babylon as a 'razing', And the eventual abandonment of the city was more a result of slow decline and changing ge…

Post by boringg » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:31 PM UTC

bbor wrote: post #440

spoonfeeder006 wrote: post #267

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But if it is in fact more humane than in the past (hard to imagine TBH), hopefully that trend of gradual improvement will continue?

Hmm, what do you mean? Like, compared to ancient times, or compared to a previous point post-WWII? Certainly the organization of one side of this conflict into a state rather than militias naturally has tempered things since the early days where entire villages were being wiped out at random, but both sides are pretty openly engaged in terrorism to this day (targeting civilians for political reasons).

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:35 PM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #520

boringg wrote: post #223

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While this is a good development. Everything in this part of the world is on a rinse snd repeat cycle ever since the Assyrians and the Babylonians - it hasn't changed much except maybe its actually a little more humane then it was in the past (which says something). Sorry for the cynical take but this just does a temporary stop.

> Sorry for the cynical take but this just does a temporary stop. It’s hard to disagree. But Ireland was an impossible problem at one stage, and while it’s still far from resolved, it’s a hell of lot less violent.

Post by stronglikedan » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:38 PM UTC

xg15 wrote: post #21

Everything else aside, this is an absolutely fantastic development and I really hope the ceasefire holds and all hostages are released. I just fear this will cause western media and politicians to and declare the crisis to be over (after it had began on Oct. 7, of course absolutely out of the blue and without any context...) and go back to pretending everything is back to normal. Never mind that Gaza is still in ruin…

Post by sempron64 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 2:42 PM UTC

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asheri wrote: post #834

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Israel does not have a fundamentalist, authoritarian government! There are some fundamentalist and far-right parties in the current coalition but they have little power to push their own policies except to threaten to bolt the coalition. For all the talk of those 2-3 ministers to who belong to these more extreme parties to eg legitimise new settlements, repopulate gaza, they don't have enough power to actually pass s…

Not authoritarian to its own ethnic population maybe... How exactly does that right of protest extend to the people it's occupying?