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Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by woodglyst »

opjjf wrote: post #5

It seems they also update the base memory on MacBook Air: > MacBook Air: The World’s Most Popular Laptop Now Starts at 16GB > MacBook Air is the world’s most popular laptop, and with Apple Intelligence, it’s even better. Now, models with M2 and M3 double the starting memory to 16GB, while keeping the starting price at just $999 — a terrific value for the world’s best-selling laptop.

Thanks to your comment. I persuaded my friend who purchased an M3 Air 24GB recently and we got 200$ back (Remuneration for price drop valid for 14 days after the date of DELIVERY) where we live

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by russelg »

ActorNightly wrote: post #449
opjjf wrote: post #5

It seems they also update the base memory on MacBook Air: > MacBook Air: The World’s Most Popular Laptop Now Starts at 16GB > MacBook Air is the world’s most popular laptop, and with Apple Intelligence, it’s even better. Now, models with M2 and M3 double the starting memory to 16GB, while keeping the starting price at just $999 — a terrific value for the world’s best-selling laptop.

Im sorry but any laptop that costs $1000 should come with 64 gigs minimum, or expandable slots.

Can you actually point out any retail laptops with that spec for that price?

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by baxuz »

orf wrote: post #598
lukev wrote: post #554

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course I wish the hardware were somehow more open, but to a large extent, it's directly because of hardware based privacy features. If you allowed third-party components without restraint, there'd be no way to prevent someone swapping out a component. Lock-in and planned obsolescence are also factors, and ones I'm glad the EU (and others) are pushing back here. But it isn't as if there are no legitimate tradeoffs.…

One of the most underrated macOS features is the screen sharing app - it’s great for seamless tech support with parents. It works via your keychain and your contacts, and the recipient gets a little notification to allow you to view their screen. That’s it - no downloads, no login, no 20 minutes getting a Remote Desktop screen share set up.

As fas as I see, it's not possible to connect to a device that uses the same Apple account, which is what I have done in my case. It has to be a different one.

Also, it only seems to work on a local network with hostnames.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by eviks »

kcplate wrote: post #779
dmz73 wrote: post #562

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mac OS calls home every time you execute an application. Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store, they would probably already be there if it wasn't for the pesky EU. If you send your computer/phone to Apple for repair you may get back different physical hardware. Those things very much highlight that "your" Apple hardware is not yours and that privacy on Apple hardware does…

> Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store I am totally ok with this. I have personally seen apple reject an app update and delist the app because a tiny library used within it had a recent security concerns. Forced the company to fix it.

No one is stopping you from using only the app store if you value its protection, so you need a more relevant justification to ok forcing everyone else to do so

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by densh »

joshdavham wrote: post #620

Question to more senior Mac users: how do you usually decide when to upgrade? I bought my first Macbook pro about a year and a half ago and it's still working great.

I update largely based on non performance criteria:

- new display tech

- better wireless connectivity

- updated protocols on ports (e.g., support for higher res displays and newer displayport/hdmi versions)

- better keyboard

- battery life

Once a few of those changes accumulate over 4+ generations of improvements that’s usually the time for me to upgrade.

My laptops so far: first 2008 plastic macbook, 2012 macbook pro, 2015 macbook pro, and M1 pro 16 currently. I skipped 2016-2020 generation which was a massive step backwards on my upgrade criteria, and updated to 2015 model in 2016 once I realized apple has lost their marbles and has no near plans on making a usable laptop at the time.

Also getting a maxed out configuration really helps the longevity.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by lylo »

jcmontx wrote: post #20

> "up to 1.8x faster when compared to the 16-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Pro" I insist my 2020 Macbook M1 was the best purchase I ever made

Yep. Bought an M1 Max in 2021 and it still feels fast, battery lasts forever. I’m sure the M4 would be even quicker (Lightroom, for example) but there’s little reason to consider an upgrade any time soon.

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by robertlagrant »

dmz73 wrote: post #562
lukev wrote: post #535

I really respect Apple's privacy focused engineering. They didn't roll out _any_ AI features until they were capable of running them locally, and before doing any cloud-based AI they designed and rolled out Private Cloud Compute. You can argue about whether it's actually bulletproof or not but the fact is, nobody else is even trying, and have lost sight of all privacy-focused features in their rush to ship anything a…

Mac OS calls home every time you execute an application. Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store, they would probably already be there if it wasn't for the pesky EU. If you send your computer/phone to Apple for repair you may get back different physical hardware. Those things very much highlight that "your" Apple hardware is not yours and that privacy on Apple hardware does…

> Apple is well on its way to ensure you can only run things they allow via app store, they would probably already be there if it wasn't for the pesky EU

What has the EU done to stop Apple doing this? Are Apple currently rolling it out to everywhere but the EU?

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by MaysonL »

LeifCarrotson wrote: post #55

I'm pleased that the Pro's base memory starts at 16 GB, but surprised they top out at 32 GB: > ...the new MacBook Pro starts with 16GB of faster unified memory with support for up to 32GB, along with 120GB/s of memory bandwidth... I haven't been an Apple user since 2012 when I graduated from college and retired my first computer, a mid-2007 Core2 Duo Macbook Pro, which I'd upgraded with a 2.5" SSD and 6GB of RAM with…

Interesting tidbit: MacBook Airs also now start at 16GB. Same price!

Re: M4 MacBook Pro

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Post by Joeri »

GeekyBear wrote: post #820
spacedcowboy wrote: post #788

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They send a hash of the binaries/libraries, and generate a cache locally so it's not sent again. That helps stop you from running tampered-with binaries and frameworks. No user-personal data is sent. There is no evidence at all that they are trying to ensure you can only run things from the App Store - I run a whole bunch of non-app-store binaries every single day. To make that claim is baseless and makes me de-rate…

> They send a hash My understanding is that they keep a local file with known malware signatures, just like the malware scanners on every other platform. > macOS includes built-in antivirus technology called XProtect for the signature-based detection and removal of malware. The system uses YARA signatures, a tool used to conduct signature-based detection of malware, which Apple updates regularly https://support.apple…

Xprotect is a blacklist that runs locally and is rarely used.

The phone home functionality is notarization, where apple does a network call to check that the signature on an executable actually came from apple’s notarization process. It is in essence a reputation system, where developers must be on good terms with apple to have the ability to notarize and get a smooth install experience.

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