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Interesting, so this is a Mac-specific solution? That's pretty cool. I assume, then, that the primary goal would be to drop in the beefiest GPU possible when on windows/linux?
With Windows/Linux I think the issue is that NVidia is artificially limiting the amount of onboard RAM (they want to sell those devices for 10x more to openai, etc) and that AMD for whatever reason can't get their shit together. I'm sure that there are other much more knowledgeable people here though, on this topic.
Google CEO says more than a quarter of the company's new code is created by AI
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That isn't the way they work today. LLMs can easily find errors in outputs they themselves just produced. Start adding different prompts, different models and you get all kinds of ways to catch errors. Just like humans.
You said humans are machines that make errors ans that LLMs can easily find errors in output they themself produce. Are you sure you wanted to say that? Or is the other way around?
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I'm sorry but I don't understand how people say LLMs are simply "tab completion". They allow me to do much more than that thanks to all the knowledge they contain. For instance, yesterday I wanted to write a tool that transfers any large file that is still being appended to to multiple remote hosts, with a fast throughput. By asking Claude for help I obtained exactly what I want in under two hours. I'm no C/C++ exper…
> thanks to all the knowledge they contain This is what's problematic with modern "AI". Most people inexperienced with it, like the parent commenter will uncritically assume these LLMs poses "knowledge". This I find the most dangerous and prevalent assumption. Most people are oblivious to the fact how bad LLMs are.
People misusing tools don't make tools useless or bad. Especially since LLMs designers never claimed the compressed information inside models is spotless or 100% accurate, or based on logical reasoning.
Any serious engineer with a modicum of knowledge about neural networks knows what can or can't be done with the output.
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#844I understand CEOs need to promote their companies, but it's notable that Google - arguably the world's leading information technology company - fell behind in AI development under Pichai's leadership. Now he's touting Google's internal capabilities, yet Gemini is being outperformed by relative newcomers like Anthropic and OpenAI. His position seems secure despite these missteps, which highlights an interesting double…
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> What a stupid future. Machines which make errors being “corrected” by machines which make errors in a death spiral. An unbelievable waste of figurative and literal energy. Humans are machines which make errors. Somehow, we got to the moon. The suggestion that errors just mindlessly compound and that there is no way around it, is what's stupid.
> Humans are machines which make errors. Indeed, and one of the most interesting errors some human machines are making is hallucinating false analogies.
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I also work at Google and I agree with the general sentiment that AI completion is not doing engineering per se, simply because writing code is just a small part of engineering. However in my experience the system is much more powerful than you described. Maybe this is because I'm mostly writing C++ for which there is a much bigger training corpus than JavaScript. One thing the system is already pretty good at is wri…
Has anyone made a coding assistant which can do this based off audio which I’m saying out loud while I’m typing (interview/pairing style), so instead of typing the comment I can just say it?
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#847I cannot imagine this to be true, cause imo current LLM's coding abilities are very limited. It definitely makes me more productive to use it as a tool, but I use it mainly for boilerplate and short examples (where I had to read some library documentation before). Whenever the problem requires thinking, it horribly fails because it cannot reason (yet). So unless this is also true for google devs, I cannot see that 25…
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That would be the way someone with no real awareness of the philosophies and realities of the two parties in the US would see it. And to be fair, that's a good description of a large chunk of the American electorate. But you can't have a guy who literally used to relieve himself into a golden toilet take over your party and be anything but the party of big business and billionaires.
https://royaltoiletry.com/does-trump-have-a-gold-toilet-unpa...
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As long as hand grenades arent introduced, I could live with that.
Honestly, I don't think "close only count in horseshoes, hand grenades, and production code" will ever catch on...
I would be very confused if someone told me that they uncritically used the generated code from a snippet program with no manual input or understanding, and I feel the same with Copilot. At best, it suggests an auto-complete that I read and interpret before accepting.
The closest I come to "code generation" is during test writing, where occasionally I will let the description generate some setup, but only in tests where there are a broad number of examples to follow, and I am still going to end up re-writing a decent chunk of it based on personal example. I would not "let it write the test suite for me" and then trust the green, and I suspect that would easily fail code review (though it would be an interesting experiment...).
Obviously your comment as a good goof and well made, but it does speak to a little bit of the disconnect between what is being touted as an "AI coding tool" and how I, a person who makes react native apps to pay my rent, actually use the dang thing (i.e., "A pretty good snippets plugin"). Is My code 'AI generated'? I wouldn't call it that, but who can say definitively? We're in a fun new semantic world now.