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Post by philistine »

VogonPoetry wrote: post #563
robotresearcher wrote: post #321

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I bet iMacs are some of the longest-average-lifetime computers out there. But I’m sad that the 27” models are obsolete computers and still-wonderful screens, and Apple removed the use-as-screen mode.

That feature was available and only possible with specific Intel chips. It went away because Intel stopped supporting it. Sad the feature didn't come back to life in the AppleSilicon iMac.

Their display stack on Apple Silicon is still maturing. It took way too long for them to support more than a single external display. I bet you it's due for a comeback in the next decade.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by Daz1 »

kev009 wrote: post #814
Daz1 wrote: post #805

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Define "consumerism"

There is very little change from one iPhone to the next but very much marketing which underscores the true intentions. The business model is built on a revolving demand cycle that is unrelated to long term thinking, maintainability, efficiency, nor sustainability. One may argue well that Apple is better than the other players in the field but it doesn't undercut the overall impact of producing incredibly complex and…

>There is very little change from one iPhone to the next

Visually, sure. Under the hood? Wrong.

>The business model is built on a revolving demand cycle that is unrelated to long term thinking, maintainability, efficiency, nor sustainability.

Sorry you need to qualify this statement. An iPhone 6S is still completely usable and almost certain to be in a functional condition assuming it has been looked after correctly. That's a 8-9 year old phone. Meanwhile my 2001 phone was hopelessly outdated e-waste in 2007.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by saintfire »

philistine wrote: post #837
tomcam wrote: post #716

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With respect, then, why do you think iPhone or iPad batteries can’t be replaced by the average user after a decade and a half?

For the same reason I can't replace the battery on my electric car (not the 9V one). Because the car maker made that choice, for a myriad of good and bad reasons. What's your point?

I would think the point was already made: The decision is not environmentally friendly.

That aside, comparing a phone battery to an high-voltage high-amperage battery is a bit of an apples to oranges.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by grecy »

vid wrote: post #636
grecy wrote: post #531

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Then it sounds like OP ( and yourself) should spend your money elsewhere. I mean, I’m livid Ferrari don’t make a cheap commuter for my family and 9 dogs. So I shop elsewhere.

Oh, I do take my money elsewhere. However, your livid-ness is a lot more misplaced compared to expecting a very massive, "user friendly," general computing company that "thinks different" to give the people what they want.

That was sarcasm.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by whatever1 »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #769
phillco wrote: post #458

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Incidentally, it was observed that the new iMac can support an external 8K 120Hz display: https://x.com/vadimyuryev/status/1850929080281321899

Not sure how that's possible. With 80gbit you can only do 8K 90hz. 120hz would need the 120gbit of the 3 lane alt mode of thunderbolt 5.

Maybe some sort of compression?

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Post by aspenmayer »

jasonventresca wrote: post #777

Integrating an LLM capabilities directly into the OS is pretty slick. I know it's just one less step than copy/pasting something into a ChatGPT tab in your browser, but that seamless experience makes it that much more accessible and lower friction. I'm excited to see where Apple Intelligence goes; though I do wonder if Apple choosing to partner with OpenAI will eventually put them in the backseat when other models li…

I think they already have a setting for choosing your AI provider on beta versions of iOS 18, so they’re looking forward to avoid lock-in.

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Post by adastra22 »

gilgoomesh wrote: post #824
jjcm wrote: post #448

Since this thread seems to be about niche asks for pro users, despite the product being targeted towards casual users who want an easy out of the box experience, I'll add my own to the mix. I'd love a bigger/better screen on these, specifically an ultrawide variety. An iMac Pro with an 8k ultrawide would be a near-instant purchase for me. I find the ultrawide form factor so good for productivity. I love the apple "it…

I'd love a Mac-targeted ultra-wide at any size. Unfortunately, there aren't any ultra-wide panels with 200dpi resolutions (Apple's version of retina for desktop). Most top out around 140dpi and therefore need to be run at scaled resolutions (i.e. blurry) for macOS.

I decided to fix this by having my eyes go bad as I age. Icons taking up larger screen real estate isn't a big deal anyway when the monitor is so big--your eyes aren't as close to the edges, where those icons often live.

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Post by rswail »

llm_nerd wrote: post #512
leptons wrote: post #305

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I'd sooner believe it's because they want you to buy 2 of them, so you can charge one while using the other.

Zero people on the planet do this. The mouse port thing is like a canary in the coal mine, betraying the people who just like taking shots at Apple, but generally are very ill informed. I think Apple should keep the port on the bottom purely so we can get the shortcut to discarding people's opinions when they hoist it up to concern troll. For actual Apple Mouse users, charging is just the least concerning thing imagi…

I'm one that does. I've got two MMs because I have a desktop iMac (27" 2019) and a laptop for travel and I have a MM for the laptop so that I can scroll using it in my hand while in a hotel room or when doing presentations.

So when I get the "low battery warning" on the desktop MM, I put it on charge and use the other one for an hour while it recharges.

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Post by adastra22 »

baron816 wrote: post #48
minimaxir wrote: post #3

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.

There's a "bumper case" for the Magic Mouse you can get that converts it to be wirelessly charged. I want one that puts a USB-C wire I can run along the desk though. Because f*ck Apple, that's why.

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Post by adastra22 »

al_borland wrote: post #744
square_usual wrote: post #406

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The people who like the magic mouse (not me) don't care, and the people who even otherwise would never use a magic mouse get to keep making fun of it. Why would they bother?

I'd get a Magic Mouse if they'd move the port. It doesn't even need to be an actual port, it could be a magnetic charger, I'd be good with that too. Just something where I can plug it in while I'm thinking of it, keep working, and unplug it when I notice it's at 100% again. Having a magnet would actually be kind of cool. It could be left up near the top of the mouse pad and you could just swing your mouse up near it…

There's a bumper case that converts it to use wireless charging.
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