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Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by raxxorraxor »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #711

Honestly, at this point, I see absolutely zero difference, from a moral perspective, between the Israeli government and their enemies. Both are as bad as each other and have been implicated in many war crimes and human rights abuses, however Israel has more firepower and can inflict much more damage (E.g. demolish an entire apartment block, killing hundreds of innocent people from the air). The last thing any country…

I do and the latest war completely reaffirmed my perspective. The little spot that allegedly tries to genocide everyone around them while their enemies have that as the stated goals in their respective charters. It is the reason for the existence of Hezbollah even. Why not believe them?

The positions aren't equal, in fact they are worlds apart and Israel treats enemy civilians better than the terror regimes they do live under despite facing constant wars of aggression by said nations.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by red_admiral »

einszwei wrote: post #196

From Israel's perspective, this supply chain attack was undoubtedly a clever move, but I can't help but wonder about its long-term consequences. Although it was aimed at harming Israel's adversaries, third-party countries may now hesitate to involve Israel in their supply chains. There's also the risk that other major producers could replicate this tactic, potentially leading to further escalation in the region or be…

Everyone should be keeping an eye on all their supply chains all the time, Israel-connected or not. Especially for military (or paramilitary) applications.

It reminds me a bit of when after 9/11, some of the reaction in Israel (as well as shock and sympathy) was "Of course we have locked cockpit doors, marshals on planes and other security features on ElAl. We're not barbarians!"

Also, (Hagelin) Crypto AG. Just because it's in Switzerland doesn't mean you shouldn't be paranoid.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by anvuong »

tootie wrote: post #450
mmastrac wrote: post #365

That's an impressive supply-chain hack. Spend years showing how insecure modern telecom devices are and scare your enemy into going old-school, receive-only. Set up a shell company to sell pagers to your enemy's shell company. Give them devices implanted with a small explosive charge pointed inward, knowing they will be worn around the waist most of the time. Hack the backend server, send a coordinated page to all th…

> minimal casualties We'll see about that. Some of the footage indicates the targets were all just out and about in public. I think it's likely there will be collateral damage. I assume it didn't happen since it's not being reported, but what if one of them was on a plane?

I doubt you can receive any signal on the plane. In the airport maybe.

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by [deleted] »

achow wrote: post #835

Israel's Mossad spy agency planted a small amount (3 gm) of explosives inside 5,000 pagers made by Gold Apollo (a Taiwanese company). "The Mossad injected a board inside of the device that has explosive material that receives a code." 3,000 of the pagers exploded when a coded message was sent to them. Gold Apollo founder Hsu Ching-Kuang said the pagers used in the explosion were made by a company in Europe that had t…

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Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by wiz21c »

How do you intercept so many beepers ?

- you have to know they have been ordered

- you have to know when they are sent (from Europe)

- you have to intercept them (in which country ?)

- to modify them

- to put them back in the delivery (so you have ties with the shipping company)

- without nobody noticing

So Israel was likely not alone, or they have agents in many places...

Re: Hezbollah pager explosions kill several people in Lebanon

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Post by dncornholio »

wiz21c wrote: post #848

How do you intercept so many beepers ? - you have to know they have been ordered - you have to know when they are sent (from Europe) - you have to intercept them (in which country ?) - to modify them - to put them back in the delivery (so you have ties with the shipping company) - without nobody noticing So Israel was likely not alone, or they have agents in many places...

I don't think they intercepted. Think they just bought the pagers, prepared them and sold them directly to Hezbollah in one big batch.
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