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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by jsjohnst »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> You can add a million features to the camera app but she opens it and presses the shutter.

Even the most lax laymen of photographer would notice the tremendous difference in photo quality between an 8 year old iPhone and today. I’d argue even from 13-15 it was a big bump, but certainly going back 8 generations.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by ErneX »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

AFAIK the 15 Pro Max is their best selling model, so “most people don’t buy the pro” seems wrong.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

swyx wrote: post #113

i clipped the 5 mins on apple intelligence here for those interested https://x.com/swyx/status/1833231875537850659 notes: - photos/album search now includes video understanding, which imo seems very good from the first 2 examples they showed. includes scroll to exact time of the moment you describe. - Mail and Notifications will show summaries instead of str[:x] - Siri now knows iPhone, becomes the ultimate manual on…

> insanely good ideas

Bafflingly underwhelming additions from the previous innovation leader who had a last mover advantage in the space.

Think we need to be holding Apple to a higher standard, what they did in spaces before with the OG iPhone, iPad, iPod was completely upend the industry and change the game through focusing a product on a few pain points of the existing market. Yet Apple Intelligence feels like a brief struggling to find a reason to be there.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by hbs18 »

jjcm wrote: post #720
Havoc wrote: post #515

>6.3 inches on iPhone 16 Pro and 6.9 inches on iPhone 16 Pro Max — the largest iPhone display ever. People want this? My current 6.7 14promax is already in hindsight too big for single hand operation. Realistically I'm probably skipping 16 anyway. Top end 14 is still adequate for everything I need

Are they actually changing the physical dimensions of the phone? My understanding was it was just a reduction in the bezels

The 16 Pros are slightly taller

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by mrkeen »

eviks wrote: post #733
mulmen wrote: post #700

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am an engineer at a big tech company. I’m not a “normie”. Even for me the new features aren’t compelling. They don’t really help me do anything I actually want to do. They don’t solve a problem or scratch an itch. And features change so often and so drastically I don’t really care to learn. I used to have an optical zoom but now I have super wide angle. My Fidelity widget used to show my balance but now it doesn’t…

How can you call it "solved" when such basics as text editing are broken? The dishwasher comparison is also way off, the level of dishwasher interaction is primitive and the frequency thereof is very very low, so it's much easier to tolerate bad design

> How can you call it "solved" when such basics as text editing are broken?

I just want to be able to hold backspace in my URL bar until my link is 'polite' enough to share with someone else. I want it to stop clearing the entire field when I'm only halfway through removing the trailing crap.

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Post by fsflover »

mulmen wrote: post #700
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I am an engineer at a big tech company. I’m not a “normie”. Even for me the new features aren’t compelling. They don’t really help me do anything I actually want to do. They don’t solve a problem or scratch an itch. And features change so often and so drastically I don’t really care to learn. I used to have an optical zoom but now I have super wide angle. My Fidelity widget used to show my balance but now it doesn’t…

> Smartphones are essentially solved at this point.

How about running a normal desktop OS on smartphone, so that you could completely replace your laptop/desktop?

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Post by jajko »

steelframe wrote: post #603

I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

You don't have kids then, at least no in kids age.

I did first part of the curve like you - full frame nikon, amazing photos, milky way in the night camping etc. Now I just carry around phone (Samsung in my case, use that 10x physical zoom quite a bit).

The stuff I can snap or record, most of it would be uncatchable with camera - I would have to run around with it constantly like an idiot and shove it in everybody's face, missing much more from those unique moments. Its not so much for me but for everybody else not being there, ie grandparents, so the question is - do you care more about you being in the moment, or sharing the moment with your closest ones. Its amazing how better connected they are with whats happening to their grandchildren living not so close to them, compared to a generation ago.

Also, how much of these memories our kids will have once adults - 'you know, daddy wanted to be in the moment so sorry not many photos or videos from important moments of your childhood' is pretty lame to me, but thats me. I still see purpose of photography as service to others rather than me, me and me all the way down.

Since kids are so active, there are some cool things like very slow mo videos that give completely new perspective - process it in 30s if needed at all and share. Completely unavailable even in current 5000$+ cameras. And yes on big screen you see various errors and less quality, but nobody I know watches it on big screens anymore.

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Post by fire_lake »

strongpigeon wrote: post #307

I’m probably in the minority, but a thing I’d love to see is a much stronger flashlight. It’s silly, but the flashlight is something I use almost daily and having a more powerful one would be quite useful.

Yes! I bought a 15 pro solely to use the action button as a flashlight. Silly but convenient.

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Post by futureshock »

1123581321 wrote: post #747
steelframe wrote: post #603

I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

I think that for every deceased family member there’s one random photo in a frame somewhere in the house. We have piles and piles of old photo albums from family that has passed. Those will never get looked at again.

Photos are incredibly devalued now.

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Post by rhplus »

paxys wrote: post #82

Smaller notch? Touch ID? Better battery life? Faster charging? Larger default storage? Nope, let's skip all that and spend most of the event talking about video recording. Is anyone here actually excited about the features they just announced? Or are people simply upgrading because they get the latest iPhone every year or two by default?

Reminder for folks with older models: an Apple authorized battery replacement is about $80 in the US and will refresh your device enough to stretch its life a few more years.
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