move fast break people
Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
841–850 of 1001 posts
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#842The most interesting aspect of this debacle, in my opinion, is that with new technologies that allow you to impersonate and/or recruit artists with minor modifications, the figure of "movie star" and the artist itself will be significantly diluted.
For example, I would love to see all of the Bourne books adapted into live-action films, but I know that will be impossible. In the future, I believe it would be great to see some AI actors who are not related to any famous actors/actresses perform the same screenplay: of course, if the book is licensed to that AI movie.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#843Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…
ChatGPT is way better than to need stupid ripoffs than this Sam should be ashamed to have ever thought of ripping off anyone's voice, let alone done it and rolled it out. They are building some potentially world-changing technology, but cannot rise above being basically creepy rip-off artists. Einstein was right about requiring improved ethics to meet new challenges, and also that we are not meeting that requirement.…
It's part and parcel of the LLM field's usual disdain for any property rights that might belong to other people. What they did here is not categorically different than scraping every author and visual artist on the internet - but in this instance they've gone and brazenly "copied" (read: stolen) from one of the few folks with more media clout than they themselves have.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#844Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because it's meant to give the _appearance_ or _perception_ that a celebrity is involved. Their actions demonstrate they were both highly interested and had the expectation that the partnership was going to work out, with the express purpose of using the celebrity's identity for their own commercial purposes. If they had just screened a bunch of voice actors and chosen the same one no one would care (legally or other…
I guess the Trump lookalike satire guy would not want to go to California then
Ah, so OpenAI does satire. That explains a lot.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#845SJ mentions deep fakes. It is quite possible that OpenAI has synthesized the voice from SJ material. However If OpenAI can produce the woman who did is the current voice, and she has a voice nearly identical that of SJ would that mean OpenAI had done something wrong? Does SJ since she is a celebrity hold a "patent" right to sound like her. The more likely scenario is that they have hired a person and told her to try…
SJ's side would use pre-action discovery and trawl through internal OpenAI communications to check. If there was any suggestion of instruction from management to find a similar voice, they'd potentially be in trouble. There's already the indication that they wanted her voice through official channels. And would they need to use a voice actor when there is a substantial body of movie dialogue and interviews? I'd be su…
This happens a lot in movies though.
If the lead famous actor turns down a part,
esp in a sequel the film maker will spend time deliberately
finding an actor that looks a lot like the lead star.
(or they rewrite the roll)
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#846Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Tactical charisma" is a good one. Honestly though, if you actually listen to him and read his words he seems to be even more devoid of basic empathetic human traits than even Zuckerberg who gets widely lampooned as a robot or a lizard. He is a grifter through-and-through.
Emotional intelligence /true empathy cannot be learned or acquired, at least IMHO. But it can be learned to be mimicked almost to perfection, either by endless trial & error or by highly intelligent motivated people. It usually breaks apart when completely new intense / stressful situation happens. Sociopaths belong here very firmly and form majority. If you know what to look for, you will see it in most if not all p…
In the case of Peterson, I'd say it takes one to know one.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#847Earlier quoted context omitted.
Disregarding the cases settled out of court (which have nothing to do with case law): 1) Tom Waits vs Frito-Lay: Frito-Lay not only used a soundalike to Tom Waits, but the song they created was extremely reminiscent of "Step Right Up" by Waits. 2) Bette Midler vs. Ford Motor Company: Same thing - this time Ford literally had a very Midler-esque singer sing an exact Midler song. 3) Beastie Boys vs. Monster Energy: Mon…
> Does Scarlett Johansson have a distinct enough voice that she is instantly recognizable? It absolutely is if you've seen /Her/. It even nails her character's borderline-flirty cadence and tone in the film.
I've seen Her and the similarity of the voice didn't occur to me until I read about it. I guess it wasn't super distinct in the movie. Maybe if they'd had Christopher Walken or Shakira or someone with a really distinctive sound it would have been more memorable and noticable to me.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#848Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Tactical charisma" is a good one. Honestly though, if you actually listen to him and read his words he seems to be even more devoid of basic empathetic human traits than even Zuckerberg who gets widely lampooned as a robot or a lizard. He is a grifter through-and-through.
Emotional intelligence /true empathy cannot be learned or acquired, at least IMHO. But it can be learned to be mimicked almost to perfection, either by endless trial & error or by highly intelligent motivated people. It usually breaks apart when completely new intense / stressful situation happens. Sociopaths belong here very firmly and form majority. If you know what to look for, you will see it in most if not all p…
Almost any public figure that displays empathy will do it for show or as a statement. On many occasion not showing an emotional reaction is the empathetic thing to do as well.
You cannot really judge people by their public appearance, it will in most cases be a fake persona. So the diagnosis of Jobs or Zuckerberg isn't really grounded in reality if you do not know them personally.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#849If they used a different voice actress, then it should be trivial to simply tell everyone who she is (She could probably benefit from the publicity), and show the hundreds of audio samples, all dated before this kerfuffle.
Problem solved.
Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice
#850Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…
Could they have made it look less like Midler vs Ford?
"Midler was asked to sing a famous song of hers for the commercial and refused. Subsequently, the company hired a voice-impersonator of Midler and carried on with using the song for the commercial, since it had been approved by the copyright-holder. Midler's image and likeness were not used in the commercial but many claimed the voice used sounded impeccably like Midler's."
As a casual mostly observer of AI, even I was aware of this precedent