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In 2024, please switch to Firefox
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Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#842Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fully switching to FF at home now. I'd half done it but had a large collection of tabs open in Chrome which kept pulling me back as I couldn't be bothered with reassessing them all (a fair I should have closed) and recording the ones I still wanted to keep elsewhere. Chrome gave me the final push the other day by completely forgetting most of those open items during an update. I'd not encountered anything broken…
one-tab or supatabs extensions
SuperTabs is Chrom{e|ium} only which doesn't help as I'm moving to FF. OneTab looks partly useful, but often where I came from is important as well as the current tab location, if I've travelled through links “normally” rather than opening in a new tab every time, and I wouldn't expect it to keep that history.
Really, I need to get away from using tabs for long-term state rather than finding a better way to use tabs for that. It would make switching UA easier when I want to, and switching machine too for that matter.
Also, I've been burned by tab and/or session management extensions going stalky (TheGreatSuspender & friends), or stagnating and failing after a time.
I want to move as much state beyond active interactive use away from the browser. I've never kept passwords there or gone in for built-in sync options, but feel the need to take this further. The older I get, the more I see tight integration as a lock-in rather than a benefit.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#843Earlier quoted context omitted.
I get it, it's a nice story, but here's a nice little life-hack: What if you could take the benefits of the spending and jettison the side-effects? It's called Brave, they have their own ad blocker in the source code written in C, so it can't be hamstrung.
If you're trying to go "chrome but better" than Brave is a move in the wrong direction, given its bundled cryptocurrency and ad platform. Perhaps you haven't heard of Chromium. If so, that may be because Chromium doesn't spend as much on marketing as Brave. https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium/
It's funny because I worked in that repository for a few years, and routinely built a custom "shell" (what Chromecast is) and when this guy suggested Brave my thought was... eh, yeah, sure, but I could also just roll my own or just run stock chromium :-)
I personally like that Firefox isn't based on webkit/blink.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#844What do you think about ARC browser?
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#845Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Google is constantly inventing new JS APIs like what?
http://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/android/android-4.0/e...
that's specific to chrome
also it's weird argument "constantly inventing new js apis"
so what? their usefulnesss should be determined in their own context, not by the fact that they're a js api; unless you're a child who wages weird programming language culture wars on the internet and thinks anything that isn't the language they use is inferior
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#846I switched back to firefox last year and haven't looked back. I still use chrome on another laptop sometimes, the performance difference from my human perspective is literally zero. These days, it's much more common for me to encounter a website that works in firefox but not chrome than the other way around. I actually switched for good when I had to use firefox to file my taxes, because the IRS free self-file site w…
Firefox out of the box indeed does not cause broken websites. However, the demographic of this forum probably will use Firefox with "Multi-Account Containers", "Temporary Containers", "uBlock Origin", and a few more. These are amazing for privacy and productivity, but will occasionally cause broken websites. Source: I am a Firefox-first user who occasionally uses plugin-less Chrome because the aforementioned plugins…
Temporary and Multi-Account containers do not break websites.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#847As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…
I use Waterfox on Mac and it is great. Safari is slow in comparison and the only thing that leads me to use it is integration with TouchID.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#848As someone in the Apple ecosystem, Firefox is not a very compelling alternative. I've certainly tried: Firefox Focus was my main iOS browser for a few years (I know it's Webkit-based) and I've tried switching on desktop as well. On desktop, various Firefox updates would change my settings subtly and nag me about features I had no interest in. On top of that, it was simply a slower browser, both with DOM manipulation…
I use Librewolf and Orion on MacOS, Orion on iOS/iPadOS (which is Safari I suppose, but the shell is awesome)
Orion was extremely buggy for me which is a shame, I was looking forward to the extensions and being able to use touchID.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#849Earlier quoted context omitted.
When these sites break I prefer to spam their support or just not use them. If they won't support firefox then they don't deserve my patronage.
It's not patronage if you don't pay. Google would rather not have you as a user if it costs them any amount of time to support you. The relationship here is adversarial on both sides and pretending otherwise doesn't help anyone.
Google chooses to provide those services for "free" which means thez actually do benefit from the users.
Re: In 2024, please switch to Firefox
#850Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google pays Apple billions in their search deal, per year ($18 billion in 2021). Apple may sell devices, but it's safe to say that at this point Google entirely funds Safari. Apple is unwilling to upset that cash cow without risking those tens of billions, even if we are talking about 5% of their revenue. ;-)
And you really think Apple, selling their devices with the privacy label, would leave the browser market to 100% in google's hands? This would incredibly undermine their marketing strategy. And what makes you think Safari R&D is solely funded by the search provider deal they have with google? Safari is a product that is sold as part of the "Apple universe", there's definitely more value to it than just a place for th…
> And what makes you think Safari R&D is solely funded by the search provider deal they have with google?
Google paying them 20 billion per year is more than enough to fund several browsers and still make a profit, that being Safari's direct revenue stream. You don't need any more than that.
You're also making too many assumptions about Apple's motives and marketing, but can't get around the fact that money talks. In the future, things may change, but right now, Google funds Safari.