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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jafitc »

zamalek wrote: post #760
johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

The biggest advantage of Bard is the speed, it's practically instant. I asked: How would I go about creating a sandbox directory for a subordinate user (namespaced user with subuid - e.g. uid 100000), that can be deleted as the superior user (e.g. uid 1000)? I want this to be done without root permissions. Both said that it's impossible, which is the the generally accepted answer. I then added: I don't care about dat…

Bard currently is GPT-3.5 class model. Of course it's faster than GPT-4. (YMMV on specific examples of course)

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jafitc »

miraculixx wrote: post #451
johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

Not sure what you tried, but it's not the new model. It hasn't been released, just "release announced".

the new model is live

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jafitc »

okish wrote: post #840

That plot is downright criminal https://imgur.com/a/GmbkDaz 86.4->89.8% = 1/3 of 89.8->90% ??? Great science + awful communication

desperate times, desperate measure...ment practices

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by happytiger »

That is an incredibly intense brand/name choice.

Fatefully, Pollux survived the Trojan (!) war and Castor did not, and it was Pollux who begged Zeus to be mortal as he couldn’t bear to be without his brother.

Is this some prescient branding? Lol. Of all the names.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by teleforce »

foobar_______ wrote: post #503
SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?! That's your response? Ouch.

Have you seen the demo video, it is really impressive and AFAIK OpenAI does not has similar features product offering at the moment, demo or released.

Google essentially claimed a novel approach of native multi-modal LLM unlike OpenAI non-native approach and doing so according to them has the potential to further improve LLM the state-of-the-art.

They have also backup their claims in a paper for the world to see and the results for ultra version of the Gemini are encouraging, only losing in the sentence completion dataset to ChatGPT-4. Remember the new Gemini native multi-modal has just started and it has reached version 1.0. Imagine if it is in version 4 as ChatGPT is now. Competition is always good, does not matter if it is desperate or not, because at the end the users win.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by letitgo12345 »

philomath_mn wrote: post #31

This is very cool and I am excited to try it out! But, according to the metrics, it barely edges out GPT-4 -- this mostly makes me _more_ impressed with GPT-4 which: - came out 9 months ago AND - had no direct competition to beat (you know Google wasn't going to release Gemini until it beat GPT-4) Looking forward to trying this out and then seeing OpenAI's answer

GPT-4 is also rumored to have consumed 5x less compute to train

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by TillE »

SeanAnderson wrote: post #340

Gemini Ultra isn't released yet and is months away still. Bard w/ Gemini Pro isn't available in Europe and isn't multi-modal, https://support.google.com/bard/answer/14294096 No public stats on Gemini Pro. (I'm wrong. Pro stats not on website, but tucked in a paper - https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind-media/gemini/gemini_... ) I feel this is overstated hype. There is no competitor to GPT-4 being released today. I…

Fortunately Google isn't very strict about geofencing Bard. I can get Gemini Pro by just using a common VPN.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by cfiggers »

teleforce wrote: post #845
foobar_______ wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?! That's your response? Ouch.

Have you seen the demo video, it is really impressive and AFAIK OpenAI does not has similar features product offering at the moment, demo or released. Google essentially claimed a novel approach of native multi-modal LLM unlike OpenAI non-native approach and doing so according to them has the potential to further improve LLM the state-of-the-art. They have also backup their claims in a paper for the world to see and…

If they put the same team on that Gemini video as they do on Pixel promos, you're better off assuming half of it is fake and the other half exaggerated.

Don't buy into marketing. If it's not in your own hands to judge for yourself, then it might as well be literally science fiction.

I do agree with you that competition is good and when massive companies compete it's us who win!

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