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Love to see anti-intellectualism on "Hacker" News.

Playing a word game that intentionally suspends reality is fairly high level social interaction. You don't see MAGAs delicately considering subtle personality traits mapped onto intricate mystical systems.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign. I said "you tell me" and after 10 guesses I finally told her. She then went on to tell me what I must like etc - most of which was complete bollocks obviously. I told her her beliefs were akin to racism. Just because of when I was born she thought it was acceptable not to bother to treat me as an individual but as automatical…

la di da, just reading an interesting anecdote here ...

> I told her her beliefs were akin to racism.

needle scratch

Seriously, no, this is deeply silly stuff, but no, it is not akin to racism.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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Love to see anti-intellectualism on "Hacker" News.

It's not anti-intellectualism. The right answer in situations like this is to laugh it off and have some fun with it. It is not anti-intellectual to do so. It's also totally fine to be uninterested in dating someone who is super into mysticism, but it's not necessary to be a bore about it during the conversation.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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Dude, lighten up. She was playing a game with you, probably flirting. And you didn't play the game very well. Mysticism is fun, aesthetic, and filled with more questions than answers. Play the game some time, you might enjoy it. I also can't believe you actually found a way to weasel racism into the conversation. It's all so tiresome.

Eh, living in an area that has far too many astrology-nuts - it's less about flirting and more about forcing their ideology on you. I'd say less akin to racism, and more akin to religion.

Then they're the ones being the bores in the conversation. But you don't have to go full steam the other way.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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Dude, lighten up. She was playing a game with you, probably flirting. And you didn't play the game very well. Mysticism is fun, aesthetic, and filled with more questions than answers. Play the game some time, you might enjoy it. I also can't believe you actually found a way to weasel racism into the conversation. It's all so tiresome.

Sorry, but I don’t see where it says he has to respond to a woman’s nonsense flirtatious mysticism by lowering his own standard for discourse down to her level. He does not have to tolerate her magical thinking. I think he drew an interesting correlation between racism and her astrological beliefs that she likely has never heard before, and perhaps will give her some much needed introspection. That is a far more mean…

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Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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post #454

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Sorry, but I don’t see where it says he has to respond to a woman’s nonsense flirtatious mysticism by lowering his own standard for discourse down to her level. He does not have to tolerate her magical thinking. I think he drew an interesting correlation between racism and her astrological beliefs that she likely has never heard before, and perhaps will give her some much needed introspection. That is a far more mean…

I agree with you, I think "just be yourself" or else get comfortable acting on the other hand, it's also important to 'go with the flow' sometimes, specially around things you don't consider too important; whichever those may be (I've noticed that what is important is even affected by my mood).

Both "just be yourself" and "learn how to be someone who is capable of going with the flow" are good advice for social situations.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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I can't help but feel astonished how salient the classic Carl Sagan quote is here: "I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can…

I deeply dislike the argument that logic and reason should be the only part of how a person relates to the world. That we should all be logical and be free of spiritual beliefs. I don't think being an astrologist and an astronomer are antithetical. I don't know many people who are into astrology as means of predicting the future, but rather as a means of describing types of people and how they might interact and thei…

meant to say "I'm not much of an astronomer*."

(too late to edit)

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign. I said "you tell me" and after 10 guesses I finally told her. She then went on to tell me what I must like etc - most of which was complete bollocks obviously. I told her her beliefs were akin to racism. Just because of when I was born she thought it was acceptable not to bother to treat me as an individual but as automatical…

Only a fool argues with a fool.

Ah! Right! This is totally the lesson that had not yet been learned prior to this interaction.

It's wisdom I often forget about when politics comes up, but have no problem remembering when it's this kind of mysticism being discussed :)

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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There is no qualitative difference between belief in astrology and any of the world's religions. Not saying you're not entitled in disregarding astrology believers but the cut-off point is completely arbitrary and dare I say irrational.

Most secular researchers agree that Jesus, Mohammad, the Buddha, etc., were real historical figures, so that’s a qualitative difference. Moreover, there are entire civilizations built on those belief systems—including the one you live in. Comparing those civilizations is an empirical basis for comparing the underlying belief systems.

Nobody's debating objective existence of the planets either.

Re: Young people are flocking to astrology

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I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign. I said "you tell me" and after 10 guesses I finally told her. She then went on to tell me what I must like etc - most of which was complete bollocks obviously. I told her her beliefs were akin to racism. Just because of when I was born she thought it was acceptable not to bother to treat me as an individual but as automatical…

> I had an argument with a girl the other day who was adamant she wanted to know my star sign.

There's only one good answer to "what's your sign?"

"Neon"

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