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Post by bombcar »

avidphantasm wrote: post #29
avidphantasm wrote: post #23

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Yes, I did this. I had a 2019 16” i9 that I replaced with a 14” M1 Pro as soon as I could because the Intel/T2 TouchBar machine was so crash prone, glitchy, and hot. The i9 was the worst Mac I’ve ever had. The M1 Pro is probably the best.

And I’ve actually considered upgrading to an M2 Max as I kind of regret only getting 32 GB of RAM in the M1 Pro. However, the trade-in price from Apple is too low.

Apple trade in values are always low. Look around for other options or consider selling directly to someone.

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Post by bombcar »

rbanffy wrote: post #773
runeks wrote: post #767

I bought a MacBook Pro M1 about one and a half years ago, and a week ago I bought a Linux Ryzen laptop, after giving up hope of doing my x86 Linux development on the MacBook. I’ve followed every guide I could find on emulating x86 Linux on my MacBook M1 without success. Also, I bought the MacBook with 32GB RAM, and later found out I needed 64GB, and I wasn’t willing to pay the extra price of selling my old MacBook to…

64 GB is a lot. I wouldn't buy a machine with less than that (Macs tend to last a long time), but, still, wanting to max it out just in case and actually needing it is rare. What are you doing with your computer?

I would assume virtual machines, as that eats infinite RAM.

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Post by Tagbert »

ouid wrote: post #481
KptMarchewa wrote: post #55

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>1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years. That did not have enough ram 3 years ago... the fact they are still trying to sell 8GB as an useful amount outside of extremely budget laptops is insane.

There is no justification for putting a computer with 8GB on the market. Not even the most extreme budget computer should be built with 8GB, this is just a scam.

What do you base that on? If you are an HN reader there is a good chance that you do some kind of technical work that may push a computer more than a basic user who just does browsing, email, social media, and text-based work. 8GB is enough for those kind of activities, particularly the way people do mostly single-task work. That kind of usage may not justify spending extra for more RAM.

If you are doing development, video work, lots of multitasking and if your productivity per hour is important, then you probably need more RAM.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

pradn wrote: post #724
oblio wrote: post #286

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> America, meanwhile, has decent native birth rate No, it doesn't. It's about 1.8 and dropping, and most of the higher values in that group are from recent immigrants, which are also having fewer kids. Educated folks also have lower fertility rates. The US is basically a mirror of Western Europe in this regard: https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rate... > AND a culture that's always willing to ac…

> Lots and lots of natural resources facilitating lots of businesses which aren't really feasible in say, Germany, France, Japan. This doesn't seem to be a big factor in the boom industries in the US: tech, finance, pharma. It does matter for construction, the biggest employer. The US still seems like a more welcoming place than western Europe. Or at least you can take comfort in a suburban home and drive to people/i…

> The US still seems like a more welcoming place than western Europe.

I personally know peolle that left US for UK because they found your immigration system unacceptable.

If you are from india, you might have to wait 10 years to get citizenship after fulfilling all requirements.

Uk immigration system itself is worse than that of France and many other countries.

It costs $10,000 to apply for visas for a family of 4. Thats just the money you pay to the government, assuming you never need a solicitor to help with the paperwork.

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Post by p0nce »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #815
p0nce wrote: post #793

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A lot :/

Which is fine if you’re mostly stationary but for someone who travels a lightweight and performant laptop with all-day battery is a game changer. Only Apple has that at the moment.

Well no that particular laptop have been my mainstay for 7 years of mobility, and ran 7 years vertically on a stand, so Apple would have broken way before that Lenovo. Notwistanding the price.

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Post by howinteresting »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #729
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Sorry but I was referring to all Macbook Air laptops as a whole, as a single brand here, rather than one specific device. I think that is acceptable.

Would you say "A lot of developers and video editors use Thinkpad X1 Carbon"? No. usually it'd be "Thinkpad X1 Carbons" or "a Thinkpad X1 Carbon".

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Post by roundandround »

buzzert wrote: post #810
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Firearms are the leading cause of death for American children and teens - higher than motor vehicle deaths. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2201761

Suicide is often included as a cause of death to intentionally distort this statistic: > From 2019 to 2020, the relative increase in the rate of firearm-related deaths of all types (_suicide_, homicide, unintentional, and undetermined) among children and adolescents was 29.5% If you control for this, and include rates of homicide using other means of destruction (i.e., explosives or knives), it starts to look a lot m…

I wouldn't consider that distortion. Its a significant problem that firearms are highly successful suicide on the first impulse. Children who try another means are much more likely to have a chance to contemplate if they really want to kill themselves.

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Post by Tagbert »

markus_zhang wrote: post #461
izacus wrote: post #36

I was just buying a laptop for my family and the prices of MacBooks here in Europe are utterly crazy. The crappiest 8GB RAM (?!) 256SSD M2 Air model is 1650EUR. 1650EUR for a laptop that won't have enough ram to run the browser in two years. The 16GB model is rounded 2000EUR, which was before reserved for a high-end gaming laptops. It's bonkers.

God a 16' 16GB M2 costs 3200 CAD which is almost 4000 CAD after tax and a few extra but necessary peripherals. Although I understand that M2 pro is usually reserved by professionals who need some extra punch but it's still outrageously expensive.

That’s not bad. My 2014 15” MBP with 16/1T was $2800 and that was 9 years ago.

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Post by amithanda81 »

wintermutestwin wrote: post #745
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You are buying into a distorted image of the typical US population experience. Access to healthcare is pretty much instant and high quality for all but the very bottom of the society. 85%+ of the population can get an appointment within a day or two and if it’s urgent can access numerous urgent care clinics with almost no wait. Best I can tell for many European countries the situation is significantly worse in terms…

> 85%+ of the population can get an appointment within a day or two I'd love to see where you got that statistic. IME, I have to wait months for any kind of specialist. And when I finally get to see one, my insurance underpays and then I spend endless hours fighting with both the provider and the insurer. This crap happens every single time I need to see a doctor. I can't wait to retire and move to a second world cou…

that doesnt reflect my experience in US at all. I come from India. Despite our hospitals being flooded with patients, healthcare is not inaccessible. As it is over here, its a insane system with the priorities a* backwards. Focus on patient, not on your profits.

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Post by laurencerowe »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #590
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> AND a culture that's always willing to accommodate new people. Try getting a green card even as a trained European. Good luck :) Not that I'd ever be interested in living in the US. I prefer a country with a decent social security safety net and socialized healthcare. And where people can't just run around carrying guns. Spain is not perfect but I have way fewer things to worry about here. So I can relax and enjoy…

You are buying into a distorted image of the typical US population experience. Access to healthcare is pretty much instant and high quality for all but the very bottom of the society. 85%+ of the population can get an appointment within a day or two and if it’s urgent can access numerous urgent care clinics with almost no wait. Best I can tell for many European countries the situation is significantly worse in terms…

Be sure to check that urgent care clinic is in network first! Having a well paid job in a big US metro gives you access to excellent healthcare but the bureaucracy here is a huge pain compared to countries with universal systems.

Coming from the UK I would have picked the NHS as it was when I left 10 years ago over what I have access to here, but the Tories have really run that service into the ground in the interim.

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