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Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

Comments like this make me wonder just how divergent peoples outlook on life are.

I’m with the guy you responded too, making a billionaire lose money is way funnier and interesting.

But even in a normal company, I never really understood this loyalty/ethics thing.

To me, it makes sense to do the very, very bear minimum and “steal” as much time as possible. So you can use it for your self.

A job is you selling time to someone else. It’s simply incomprehensible to me someone would willingly give extra of their time. Equally not attempted to claw back as much as their time as possible.

I suppose there’s an element of game theory, there are points in time where it’s worth to go that extra mile to achieve something that will put you in a better position, but those are the exceptions not the rule.

Not judging you, I’m glad people like you are out there. My life is better due to people like you and I am thankful for that. But, yeah, I guess I’m just fascinated at the differences in outlook.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

#843

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

If these numbers are right and they're laying off 50% the workforce, half of me wonders how much Parag could raise to build a new Twitter from scratch and just hire 500 - 1000 talented folks off the street for the venture, I mean if Travis K could raise almost a billion for his shitty ghost kitchen venture I'd have to think they could get enough runway to get something launched pretty quickly. There's so many "What w…

How many people do you think would join a Twitter clone founded by a sore loser from the dregs of the old company?

Would they be fun to hang out on the Internet with?

None, and no. I appreciate the chuckle though.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

#844

I don't at all object to code reviews/evaluation, but the thing I wonder about is this: I rarely open an empty file and write some big block of code. 98% of the time I'm fixing bugs in legacy code or shimming in some new feature. It would be trivial to produce the diffs I generated in the past 30 or 60 days, but the volume of code isn't really a great metric for my productivity. There may be some three line change th…

I once reviewed code for a company that got purchased. I took less than a few hours to reach conclusion. There were 7 developers and in 2 months only one was writing code. The entire team but that one developer was fired. Twitter has grown a reputation for being slow and a rest and vest haven. Won't be surprised if they are looking for people not writing code. On a different note, If you're in a large org and all you…

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Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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Thread is insane; he's checking to see who's doing actual work.

The weirdest of the many, many crazy takes is that using TSLA people to review TWTR code is a "conflict of interest". As obviously stupid and blatantly "I'm going to us a phrase that I've heard but don't understand" as that is, I've seen multiple people make this claim.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

#846

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

You joined Tesla to build cars of the future and bring self driving to the masses and then they ask you to review some other companys codebase, so that the boss can fire bunch of people. Yay, I will do my absolute best.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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What makes me smile is the idea that Google searches related to "How do I print the code I committed in the last 60 days" must be shooting up on Google Trends.

Don't forget `how do I hide the code I've deleted in the last 60 days`.

As another pointed out, I would expect Musk's crew to be looking for ways in which TWTR people put their thumbs on the scale to benefit the "correct" viewpoints/ideologies/mindsets over others.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

#848

I dunno why any Twitter engineers would be really trying that hard right now. Passively destroying Twitter from within by not trying, and trying to make a billionare lose 44 billion dollars is a significantly more fun and interesting challenge than making Twitter a better product.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

One could argue that centralized surveillance capitalism companies are unethical to start with. In the hands of a billionaire seeking to make them more profitable at all costs, they can become dangerous weapons.

The ethical thing for Twitter engineers to do is sit back and watch Twitter burn and potentially think about how to help someone like Jack build the open source decentralized alternative he has been musing about.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

#849

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comments like this makes me lose faith i humanity. If I were a engineer at Twitter, I'd do my absolute best up to the minute I have to leave the premises. Because I would care about the company, my colleagues and most importantly for the >200m people who use Twitter for fun, educational, business and those who depend on it. But it's probably because I'm an old beard, who value being honest and ethical, to be the bett…

Comments like this make me wonder just how divergent peoples outlook on life are. I’m with the guy you responded too, making a billionaire lose money is way funnier and interesting. But even in a normal company, I never really understood this loyalty/ethics thing. To me, it makes sense to do the very, very bear minimum and “steal” as much time as possible. So you can use it for your self. A job is you selling time to…

When you ask you accountant to do your accounts so you don't get hugely screwed by the tax man then you expect/hope that they will do their best work in your interest.

When you go to the dentist and need a broken tooth fixed you hope the dentist will take an extra 15 minutes if it means your fixed tooth will look as straight and nice as possible, even if they could have fixed the core issue in a much faster way and leave you with an aesthetically unpleasant looking tooth.

When you send your children to school you hope that teachers would sacrifice time from their own lunch break if your kid has one more question just before the break so they don't fail the next exam.

If you live in America you probably hope that the person who guards the gate to your child's school would wait an extra 20 minutes if the new guard is slightly late so no crazy gunman could just walk in unchallenged and gun down your child.

When your parents end up frail and end up requiring social care you'd hope that the people looking after them would not just do the "bare minimum and steal as much time as possible for their own benefit" and rather take pride and care when looking after them.

All those people also hope that if you work on a product that serves a public interest that you will do your utmost best to return the favour so everyone can live in a nice society.

Re: Tesla engineers were on-site to evaluate the Twitter staff’s code, workers said

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post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And if you indeed make "more lines!" the guiding metric for developer performance, you're setting yourself up for a world of pain because they will sure as hell find out and start gaming the metric. This will lead to a feedback loop of rising expenses and tech debt.

As a Vim user, I’ll happily expand my for loops with just a couple of key presses

How do you do the increments smartly
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