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Do you think there would be same level of uproar if he decided to donate x millions to blm all of a sudden?

Well, around 2 years ago, he made a $2 million direct donation to support the families of George Floyd, Ahmaud Arbery and Breonna Taylor[0]. 0. https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/entertainment/kanye-west-two-...

I don’t think George Floyd’s family is too happy about that atm

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

This is gross slander. This is a black man who is a unicorn in two industries. One of the most successful black people of all time. Who is fighting to establish black ownership in those industries. Here’s his latest full interview where he goes into detail on what he’s been saying. I highly encourage you to watch at least the first 20 minutes: https://odysee.com/@ArchAngel:e/Ye-on-The-Media-The-Kardashi... “I respect…

Frank Zappa had plenty of legal issues with people of that background in the recording industry and we never heard anything more untoward from him than a certain unfortunately titled song Google likes to censor out of albums. No “death con 3” , etc.

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Communication that can be censored is good. "true free speech" is the perfection you're striving for. "Life is full of hurt." Are you an arms dealer? Why not? It's profitable, and sure, people get hurt, but what's the problem with that?

“Communication that can be censored is good”. You should be able to choose what you see, not what other people say.

I gave a list of examples. Are you legitimately okay with Ye deciding to distribute all of the following examples:

Child Porn, Revenge Porn, National Defense secrets leaking, instructions for Chlorine Gas masquerading as instructions for making Play-Doh, libel and slander, weaponized disinformation, doxxing, harassment, threats of violence.

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This is gross slander. This is a black man who is a unicorn in two industries. One of the most successful black people of all time. Who is fighting to establish black ownership in those industries. Here’s his latest full interview where he goes into detail on what he’s been saying. I highly encourage you to watch at least the first 20 minutes: https://odysee.com/@ArchAngel:e/Ye-on-The-Media-The-Kardashi... “I respect…

Frank Zappa had plenty of legal issues with people of that background in the recording industry and we never heard anything more untoward from him than a certain unfortunately titled song Google likes to censor out of albums. No “death con 3” , etc.

So did Michael Jackson, and he talked about it. What does it matter if some other person did or didn’t talk about their issues - it’s irrelevant.

Do you know what he meant by death con 3?

Because he explains it himself in the video and it’s not untoward like you’re implying.

Again, maybe listen to the guy for 20m.

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His name is now legally Ye. Would you deadname Chelsea Manning in the same way?

Those 2 things are not the same thing. Someone who changes their gender to what they feel they should be, including a new gender name is very much different then a person changing their name to a mononym.

What’s the difference?

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I find it interesting that similar claims have been made against several members of the Republican party in recent times (by prominent news outlets). What is the threshold of evidence that taints an entire political party?

For the record I think it was wrong then, but there are literal KGB records of people in the working for them, and some were caught and arrested at the time. Again I think the law was wrong, but the concern was real. As for "Russia Gate", I remain in unconvinced. [*edit] if you’re downvoting, kindly share your disagreement, I’d be interested to hear what you have to say.

The info on Russia gate is public record in courts, the special counsel report, inspector general report, etc. Russia supported Donald Trump.

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But isn’t that an indication that truly free peoples are less religious as opposed to a conspiracy? My whole life there have been religious cable news shows. If they were extremely popular, they’d air on prime time or their content would be shared more on social media. It’s not being blocked.

believing that what you see on TV reflects reality 1:1 is exactly why it's so dangerous—it's a wholly artificial, professionally-curated window into reality, nothing more, nothing less. I'm a bit shocked to see people still buying into the idea that it's an accurate reflection of reality, as you are, still, in the current year. what makes you think that the content that appears on television is any sort of democratic…

TV is about selling marketing. If a religious channel would draw 20 million viewers a night, someone would figure that out.

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GP is simply offering some context since you said you don't know Kanye at all and have only encountered him recently. It was never intended to be incompatible.

Fair I guess. I'm not sure about the "recently" comment though. He's been making a ruckus for well over a decade now.

He’s an artist, he’s supposed to be messy.

But you also clearly have no idea who he is and what’s he’s stood for - the guy is single-handedly responsible for turning the tide on Gangster rap.

Here’s one way to put it:

No other man alive today is more responsible for changing negative to positive messages in popular music today.

He’s literally one of the most thoughtful and revolutionary artists alive. But of course you’d have to have listened to his albums from the start and followed along with interviews not just reading all the headlines on Reddit or Twitter.

And no, he hasn’t degraded. Ye, TLOP, Kids See Ghosts, Jesus is King are all massively successful unique pieces of art. It’s hard to compare him to anyone - MJ stayed within one genre, only really the Beatles maybe had as much diversity of novel styles.

If you only pay attention to the media you’d have your opinion. It’s so out of wack with reality though. But that’s what we have all across this entire forsaken thread - a bunch of totally naive people who aren’t even 1% familiar with his corpus of work or history calling him sick and worse.

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For the record I think it was wrong then, but there are literal KGB records of people in the working for them, and some were caught and arrested at the time. Again I think the law was wrong, but the concern was real. As for "Russia Gate", I remain in unconvinced. [*edit] if you’re downvoting, kindly share your disagreement, I’d be interested to hear what you have to say.

The info on Russia gate is public record in courts, the special counsel report, inspector general report, etc. Russia supported Donald Trump.

I mean Russia Gate in the conspiratorial Trump as Russian agent sense, which seems unsupported by evidence.

But yes it seems clear that he was Russia’s preferred candidate, though it’s unclear to me whether that made any measurable or meaningful difference. Failing to campaign in the upper Midwest or rust belt as a democrat seemed like an avoidable self-own.

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Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

> Yet again, I like that Musk and Kanye kind of people claim that they want free speech because at least we can hold them responsible when they don't deliver it.

What does "holding them responsible" look like? Making pseudo-anonymous comments on HN calling them out?

Giving them the benefit of the doubt at this point that they are acting in good faith seems hopelessly naïve and exactly the smokescreen they are looking for. They're saying whatever Bullshit(tm) it takes to get through this week with the best possible outcome, and you want to circle back in a couple years? No one will care or remember remember what the initial statement was.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit#Lying_and_bullsh...

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