“Science must respect the dignity and rights of all humans”

Post by jmull » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 5:31 PM UTC

brushfoot wrote: post #683

jmull wrote: post #110

- is it desirable for science be beneficial to people? - if so, doesn't that judgement need to be made? - in respect to whether or not to publish a paper or article, who should make the judgement as to whether the science is beneficial or not, if not the publisher? I think if you're going to object to this, you need to do so on the substance of the guidelines. Otherwise you're just substituting your own editorial jud…

> - is it desirable for science be beneficial to people? No. This is like asking whether language is beneficial. It can be. And it can be harmful in the wrong hands. It can be used to inspire altruism or to promote genocide. Its benefit or harm depends on its use. Even the same word, "no," can be used positively or negatively. That isn't an argument against its availability, let alone its existence. - if so, doesn't…

Post by illuminerdy » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 6:53 PM UTC

diffeomorphism wrote: post #835

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Information cannot cause harm. Harm is done by people.

That is just wrong or a very unfunny pun. Lots of info is classified because it would be harmful in the wrong hands.

Post by chaps » Sat, Aug 27, 2022, 8:37 PM UTC

DocTomoe wrote: post #831

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Heh. I'm the reporter who did the analysis and I absolutely assure you the data was not incomplete. Where in the article was that said? Maybe I'm missing something, but I've spent many hours looking at the arrests in those early days and I can't recall anything that I'd call "incomplete". The reporting we did at Chicago Reporter was effectively in response to what was said in past reporting (like the one you link), w…

> Where in the article was that said? From the article: > The Reporter does not have access to the arrest narratives, so our analysis includes crimes that could be considered looting in the context of a protest, but may also be everyday crimes like burglary. This becomes particularly interesting because only two paragraphs further up, it is pointed out that police was able to - and likely did - arrest groups of peopl…

Post by mensetmanusman » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 3:23 AM UTC

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The more western equivalent of this is screening for Down's Syndrome. In certain countries, essentially all Down's babies are aborted. (98% in Denmark, for example)

>all Down's babies are aborted. (98% in Denmark 98% of all babies with Down's syndrome, or 98% of all babies diagnosed with it? How popular is the test in Denmark?

Post by hilbert42 » Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 6:24 AM UTC

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Right, social media is the updated form of sensational headlines selling newspapers. And such headlines have always played on difference, resentment and moral values. And the more glaring and outrageous they are the more business profits from them. This is a serious issue for society to resolve, especially given the clear evidence that many people cannot distinguish sensationalism from fact and are thus influenced by…

> many people cannot distinguish sensationalism from fact and are thus influenced by it. People are generally punished throughout their lives for being ignorant. But lack of comprehension is sometimes feigned. Some people test the tolerance of their behaviour. The existence of propanda is at once a difficult problem and a profitable problem. There is no bright side to propaganda. In cases where people are materially…