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We are actively trying to help Russian IT specialists to flee. We had over 300 resumes submitted by different people in our Telegram community in just two days. Most of these are senior people, many with experience in Yandex, local branches of Google and other international companies.

I wrote about the situation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30552091

If anyone can help us get these people out — please step forward, all information is in the post. 30+ recruiters are already working with us, but that is not enough.

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#842

I managed to escape the country yesterday, had to flight to Egypt of all places, because ALL (even business) tickets were sold out. The recent news is that starting March 6 all international flights are suspended, the trap has closed. The disheartening thing is that even if you never supported Putin, other countries treat you as enemy. I am at Georgia now and banks refuse to open bank accounts to Russians, and I need…

[Disclaimer: Russian] According to my estimations, probably at least 95% of people who are "against the war" do not go out to participate in protests. My estimations are based on talking to my colleagues (large IT company). Yes, starting from now, protesting becomes more risky (you may go to jail for years if you get caught second time). But just a week ago, it was mostly harmless (yes, some people get arrested for f…

how's this rhetoric different that Russia's "there some bad actors in Ukraine, so let's wreck the whole country"? Some people didn't vote for Putin, some even went to protest and been to jail and all got sanctions. Saying it's "deserved" seems rather insensitive. It escapes me how the regular Russian people are often considered the only group that can quickly change the situation today. Yet all they get in western media is hate and shame.

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#843

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Is it the other countries who don't like arrest records, or can Putin's regime prevent people with these records, from getting a visa elsewhere?

It is common for visa applications to have a question like "Have you ever been arrested or convicted for any offence or crime, even if the arrest did not result in a conviction". And residency applications usually ask for a police record.

Oops. Having been arrested in Russia maybe should count in one's favor instead

But I guess that will never happen :-(

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No one thinks that a regular Ivan from some russian city (on his own) is responsible for the war and should suffer. And I see how you could (and probably should, at some level) feel sorry for russians fleeing the country. But this is the only way to tell them that they -- collective Ivans, Russian society as a whole -- should stand up and act: they should articulate their content, they should protest against putin's…

would you say the same thing if Russian citizens were instead from North Korea? The "democratic" Russian Federation is 31 years old (20 of which were under Putin). There has been 0 full generations who saw a functioning or even a fictional democratic process in action.

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post #186

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The Nazis were stopped from outside and the USSR by people from it's government because of it's economic downfall.

> The Nazis were stopped from outside Yes, after killing 30 million+ people. It would have been much easier if Germans didn't enable them or someone took out Hitler in 1938. And we punished Germany for generations because of it. The US still has military bases there to this day.

Hold on. US industrialists (so called fascists) enabled Hitler. Without them he would have never won any election and started all those wars and purges.

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post #540

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The sadder truth may be that you won't be getting anything much better than Putin from Russia in its current state.

This is not true. Even just the opposition party leader Navalny is good enough. Good people exist in Russia. Putin just needs to be removed from the helm.

>This is not true. Even just the opposition party leader Navalny is good enough.

Yeah, only because he's anti-Putin. People who follow internal deals more closely remember how he was marching with slogans "Russia for russians, Moscow for moscovians" and such. He always was very opportunistic in my opinion.

I respect him for what he's done regarding investigations but he's not a president material.

>Good people exist in Russia.

Sure, but being a "good person" does not qualify you as president. No to mention that "good" is subjective. Many people see Putin as a good person.

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post #667

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Perhaps rather than protesting, silently walking around holding signs that use of sarcasm? (To circumvent the anti-speech laws) “Putin is king! Glory to USSR!” “Synonyms for conflict may contain the words: war, special operation” “Is the special operation over yet? My mother wants to see my brother” “What’s next Vladimir?” Subtle civil disobedience that the cops will overlook until it’s too late (I’m making a lot of…

Turning "special operations" into a meme is a great idea. Use it jokingly in every day life. If everyone start using it you have won your first battle.

The wider internet has already embraced this.

After Putin cried that the sanctions are an act of war they reply that no - it is just a limited special economic operation.

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post #586

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Can’t say I disagree with the sentiment. I can’t see what he has to gain from this war. There’s no upside for him. All I can think is that he’s got something like Parkinson's, knows he’s on the way out and just wants throw his weight around one last time. Honestly though your guess is as good as mine.

There are various commentators who came to the conclusion he wants his legacy to be the restoration of the Russian empire. If that's truly the case, the move of attacking Ukraine while not caring about economic consequences makes sense. Or at least it made sense until the sanctions became so heavy.

if that is the case, he won't stop in the ukraine...

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post #760

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If that's true then if you were a rational actor why would you overspend on military, even if we adjusted by cost of labour, GDP per capita and other relevant economic parameters? US spends more than the next 10 countries by military spending combined. US was the dominant influence behind economic reforms in Russia in the early 90s, so I do not understand how that argument can be made in good faith. It's Dr. Frankens…

> If that's true then if you were a rational actor why would you overspend on military, even if we adjusted by cost of labour, GDP per capita and other relevant economic parameters? US spends more than the next 10 countries by military spending combined. Many reasons. One can simply be good salespeople. Another could be an effective role as world police. Another could be to constrain violent dictatorships from invadi…

>could be an effective role as world police.

There's war in Yemen right now, with one of the sides heavily backed by Saudi Arabia, where's the world police? Or does it only respond to calls when land changes hands?

>starting wars against neighboring countries.

1/3 countries admitted in 1999 have a border with Russia.

3/7 countries admitted in 1999 have a border with Russia.

0/4 of those admitted after that.

>Because Russia is a mafia state run by old KGB morons who are pillaging the country and, as you can see, starting wars against neighboring countries.

There's no denying it being a mafia state, but that may not necessarily be the only or even the dominant explanation.

Even Wikipedia (which Russia had repeatedly considered banning on its territory) cites quite different reasons: "By mid-1992, a consensus emerged within the administration that NATO enlargement was a wise realpolitik measure to strengthen American hegemony.[20][21] In the absence of NATO enlargement, Bush administration officials worried that the European Union might fill the security vacuum in Central Europe, and thus challenge American post-Cold War influence."

>Georgia

The situation with Georgia reads very similar to the current conflict, except Georgia had taken the Russian role in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian%E2%80%93Abkhaz_confli...

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#850
post #760

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If that's true then if you were a rational actor why would you overspend on military, even if we adjusted by cost of labour, GDP per capita and other relevant economic parameters? US spends more than the next 10 countries by military spending combined. US was the dominant influence behind economic reforms in Russia in the early 90s, so I do not understand how that argument can be made in good faith. It's Dr. Frankens…

Because your neighbors may not act in good will.

It's a valid reason for sure.

But why not just say that and stop saying stuff like "no-no, those anti-ballistic missiles we deployed in Poland are against potential Iranian aggression."

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