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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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No one seems to be commenting on the 140 watt power adapter. With the caveat that I already dropped $7k (after tax) on a top-spec model, I am very interested in seeing how hot these get. Particularly in light of how cool the M1 runs. Prior to my current M1 MBP, my daily driver was a maxed-out 16" MBP. It's a very solid computer, but it functions just as well as a space heater. And its power brick is only 100 watts...

The 140w power adapter is for fast charging I believe.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Epic update. Crazy fast chips, 120hz, mini LED, more ports, 64 gigs of ram. It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro.

> It's literally everything you could want in a new MacBook Pro. If it doesn't run VirtualBox then I can't use it to write code, so why does it even matter if it's faster?

I'm writing this comment from Ubuntu running on my M1 Macbook Pro, so...?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Kills the touch bar, the light touch keyboard, adds back weight, card reader, ports and the mag safe. Feels like an apology for prior design decisions. My 2011 MBP is new again!

I have owned macbooks only since 2017 and found the older (2011 era) aesthetic design to be bulky and not too appealing. I own a 2020 model, which looks sharp and professional. I don't like them going back to this rounded edges on the bottom. I love everything else, except this simple gripe over aesthetics.

I've owned Macbooks since 2003. Typing this on a 2020 Macbook Pro 13". It's just been a long evolution of getting thinner. IMO, and as others have stated, going all-in on thinness drove a series of design mistakes that seem to be reversed here. Rounding out the thinner leading edge gives a bit more space, and would guess makes it feel more solid. I don't like the thinner front end being a little suspended above the surface of the table, it makes me worry about it bending.

The 2003 12-inch Macbook with the aluminum keys was like a textbook made out of solid metal. That keyboard felt great.

This looks like a great machine to me and I am a little sad I bought in Feb!

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Happy to see they added Magsafe but ALSO still support charging via the USB3 ports.

Controversial opinion, but I think adding Magsafe back (along with the other ports) was a step backward for the industry. Apple pushed the whole industry to standardize on one connector for everything. If anyone really needed those other ports, a small $30 portable hub would add them all back. Magsafe 3 is just another connector that will add more e-waste and proprietary cables to the mix. It's nice that they kept th…

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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there. Hard to say though without playing with it for a while. So clearly I need to go back to work for some tech company that will buy one for me :-). It is more interesting to me to reflect on the comments from about 5 years ago that "ARM will never be in laptops, its a 'phone' processor." That statement was both true and ignored the realit…

> Priced out the one I would buy and it is $4300. Seems the value isn't quite there.

I was also surprised at how high the maxed out laptops can go in price. From memory, around the 2015 model line the top end would be at around $3000 without the crazy disk options.

There was a rule of the thumb that Apple priced their product at a rough ratio of $2 / day. That would give 4 year for my 2014 laptop, and it mostly did. That would be 5.5 years for the top end 16" laptop, I guess that's reasonable ?

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HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…

I think these still stick to 16:10. If you take 74px off the height for the notch/menubar area, you get 3024 x 1890 and 3456 x 2160 which are both 16:10.

What will happen if you mirror screen with a 16:10 monitor? Will it display black bars on the sides?

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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Amazing update. I still wish the m1 air supported 2 external displays though, as I would still prefer the smaller form factor, lighter weight, fanless design, and cheaper price, as I don't need the pro power. Hopefully the refreshed air will get support for 2 external displays sooner rather than later as it is otherwise perfect.

If you use DisplayPort, you can add as many as six external displays on an M1 Air [1]. [1]: https://www.macrumors.com/2020/11/24/m1-macs-able-to-run-six...

DisplayPort != DisplayLink.

DisplayLink hardware isn't known to be super stable - since it all runs through USB, things can get slow or laggy, and can sometimes be subjected to bandwidth limitations (at the port, the controller, etc).

DisplayLink also uses software encoding, I believe - theoretically this shouldn't be an issue for the CPUs in this machine (they can handle something like that pretty easily), but there is a noticeable performance difference versus connecting them directly via HDMI or via a TB3 DisplayPort connector.

You're also reliant on DisplayLink's drivers, which haven't always been the best on macOS. I've heard that this was fixed more recently, but haven't tested.

Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch

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This is literally a dream laptop. Improved in every area and lacking in none I can think of right now. And the price is crazy cheap for this performance if you ask me.

Yeah I just scooped one up, already just a few hours after this announcement and shipping is no longer oct 26 but instead dec 10 From what I can tell this is very high demand. Obviously we didnt know enough about Apple’s launch planning and inventory but it seems like this only happens when there is very high demand.

It was at December 10th within 30 minutes of the keynote.
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