Female Founder Secrets: Men Clamming Up

Post by foobiekr » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 7:22 AM UTC

paperwasp42 wrote: post #682

cynusx wrote: post #408

If you are a woman you can easily counter this behavior by labelling it and saying that you don't have a porcelain skin. Bonuspoints if you laugh about a guy giving you super bad feedback and how this did not bother you. Putting people at ease around you (especially customers) is a critical entrepreneurial skill. You can't blame people for being cautious when a lot of people are buying into victim-narratives and conv…

As a woman, I adopted this solution about a year ago. I will literally tell new teammates, "Look, I'm new to this career, I have a TON to learn, and I would love to be critiqued and given advice on how I can improve. I operate under a good-faith policy, so I will always assume you're being helpful and not condescending, unless you're overwhelmingly insulting (ie: telling me women aren't made for leadership roles.)" I…

Post by ipnon » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 7:29 AM UTC

spoonjim wrote: post #809

Forget “advice” — I will no longer 1) go out, even for coffee during the day, with a female colleague without a third person present, or 2) talk about anything not related to our work or light chitchat like weather or traffic.

Post by techbio » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 7:35 AM UTC

temporalparts wrote: post #831

neycoda wrote: post #814

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> someone made an unintentional mysoginistic joke "mysoginistic" in the sense of "I literally hate women" or in the sense of "I think women are less capable than men" or "I liked a physical feature of her"? There's more to choose from, the list of things that are called "misogyny" nowadays has gotten incredibly expansive.

I think the concept is pretty straightforward? It's if you believe women The last one, "I liked a feature of her" is not misogynistic absent of context. The context here is really important. It's like saying "I like your haircut". Did I pass up promotion for another person in a non-modeling job because they had a shitty haircut?

Post by ipnon » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 7:36 AM UTC

akudha wrote: post #403

ta-ffsmcu wrote: post #51

I can see this happening with myself (male, for the record). I'm usually someone who gives feedback quite frankly, am more critical of others' (and my own) work than average, etc. Over recent years I've read so much about women being passed over, cut off, terms like "microaggressions", women getting less talking time in meetings, etc., that's it's made me extremely self conscious. It's not even that I'm afraid of get…

I feel the same way. A lot of the emphasis is placed on the words and not enough on the context, intent behind those words (by everyone, not specific to male or female or any other group here). People have learned to keep quiet. And when they do speak, they use highly polished, politically correct language (silly example - first time my manager said he is taking a "bio break", I was confused. Took me a second to unde…

Post by nicbou » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 7:49 AM UTC

BonoboIO wrote: post #213

In our middle european country there was the initiative to end the discrimination to not employ people based on various markers race, skin color, gender, sex, age, education history (maybe switiching industries in your fourties) ... If the potential employer rejected your job application with a reason you could fight him in court for discrimination and get compensation even if the employer. Great intention, but it ba…