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Time to Take a Stand

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Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by spenczar5 »

tptacek wrote: post #438
_m8fo wrote: post #7

Why is that all of these posts saying to "take a stand" fail to explain the political process? I'll just quote myself here. If you want to help stop trump the most effective ways are to: 1. Call - Local congresspeople (http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/) - Senators (https://www.senate.gov/senators/contact/) - Local officials (https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials) 2. Participate - Get involved in local electi…

Run for office . Since it's hard to get up the gumption to run yourself (everyone here knows what imposter syndrome feels like), convince friends to run . Don't limit yourself to Congressional races. Those are incredibly hard to win, especially for political outsiders. Run for parks commission, for library board, for school board, for town trusteeships, and for county offices. Run for water reclamation. You don't nee…

This sounds really appealing. How do you do this? How do I get started on running for water reclamation?

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by innocentoldguy »

jacquesm wrote: post #824
innocentoldguy wrote: post #772

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1. Thanks for the citations, but who the hell are F. Roger Devlin and Brett Stevens, and why should anybody care? Their blogs seem to be on the fringe, and not something one would see in day-to-day politics. I'm not saying you don't have a point. Our society certainly has a few of these weird eggs, but there brand of "thinking" is generally viewed as abject ignorance by mainstream society, isn't it? 2. How would your…

Ad. your '2', there is a fair chance that at some point violence is unavoidable. The sooner you start steering away from the current course the better the chances that can be avoided. But time is running out.

I agree that some violence is unavoidable, and some violence is absolutely necessary. I don't think that the time for either is when people are simply talking though. Disagreeing with someone doesn't justify punching them in the face, no matter how self-righteous you may be. At least that's the way I look at it.

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by sparkzilla »

DanBC wrote: post #640
methehack wrote: post #42

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I think Mr. Altman is largely addressing tech CEOs here and urging them to make public statements. The actions you list are great for you and me, but he's mostly not really talking to us. Supporting quotations from the post (because evidence): "The tech community is powerful. Large tech companies in particular have enormous power and are held in high regard. We need to hear from the CEOs clearly and unequivocally" "A…

It would be useful for successful for the tech companies start by 1st or 2nd generation immigrants to speak up. I think the list includes (but I could be wrong): Apple Google Facebook Amazon Oracle IBM Uber Yahoo EMC eBay AT&T Tesla Reddit And, of course, ycombinator.

--->Legal immigrants

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by rdtsc »

id wrote: post #574
rdtsc wrote: post #515

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> Trump is undeniably more corrupt, Undeniably? Why do you say "undeniably". Almost half the country disagrees with that I think. Not saying he is not corrupt, but I wouldn't go with "undeniably" here.

Won't release his tax returns, appointed an administration full of bankers, CEOs and even family members (nepotism). Didn't cut ties with his company. Mayor intelligence agencies are investigating his relationship to Russia.

> Won't release his tax returns,

How does that show undeniable corruption. He is not legally required to release those. It is suspicious, yes. I wish he did, but because he didn't doesn't mean there is undeniable corruption. There might be corruption but it is pretty deniable

> appointed an administration full of bankers, CEOs and even family members (nepotism).

And Hillary got paid $200k for speeches to the same CEOs and bankers... She appealed to Occupy Wall St. kids in public and also Wall St. That's pretty interesting I think and afraid one of the reason she lost.

> and even family members (nepotism)

True. But Clinton appointed Hillary the head head of the health task force. That is far worse nepotism. She wasn't qualified and it was a waste and a failure.

> Mayor intelligence agencies are investigating his relationship to Russia.

And Hillary has been investigated by FBI since ... forever? The start of her campaign at least. All brought on by her own misjudgment to use a private email server. Which ended up with Top Secret classified material on it.

But the list goes on with Hillary.

* For example rigging Palestinian election:

" we should have made sure that we did something to determine who was going to win.” or in her own words: https://soundcloud.com/user-30899546/hrc-determine-who-win-1

* Took $1m bribe from Qatar after she new it was funding ISIS

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/8396

"- Would like to see WJC "for five minutes" in NYC, to present $1 million check that Qatar promised for WJC's birthday in 2011."

You might say it is because Qatar was deeply concerned about AIDS in the world. And it might be believable except that as soon as the election was lost, Clinton Foundation donations dropped. That is very unexpected as clearly Hillary and her family will now have a lot more time to refocus on charity. Many people might call that whole setup "corruption" and "pay to play".

* Even during the campaign she could not win honestly and had Donna Brazil pass questions to her for the debates. Why? That is ridiculously stupid. She didn't have to cheat. She could have just let Trump talk and bury himself.

* Now also in case there is still doubt about the purpose of many of those "charitable foundations". Doug Band clearly articulates how the "bread is buttered" so to speak:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32240 (see doc attachment)

The list goes on. Unlike claims against Trump these are pretty undeniable. Unless we think these emails are doctored and not original. But I think they are and most people think they are.

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by rdtsc »

jhall1468 wrote: post #587
rdtsc wrote: post #316

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> I'm sure Trump will be able to stablise the Middle East no problem. Well at least he'll stop arming them, that would be a good first step towards progress.

Oh? When did he sign that?

A few days ago (I think), maybe a week, when Mattis became the Sec of Defense.

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Post by CydeWeys »

sparkzilla wrote: post #843
DanBC wrote: post #640

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It would be useful for successful for the tech companies start by 1st or 2nd generation immigrants to speak up. I think the list includes (but I could be wrong): Apple Google Facebook Amazon Oracle IBM Uber Yahoo EMC eBay AT&T Tesla Reddit And, of course, ycombinator.

--->Legal immigrants

There's not a lot of illegal immigrants in any sector save for low wage agricultural and services (e.g. kitchens). Certainly not in tech. This distinction isn't needed.

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by tptacek »

spenczar5 wrote: post #841
tptacek wrote: post #438

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Run for office . Since it's hard to get up the gumption to run yourself (everyone here knows what imposter syndrome feels like), convince friends to run . Don't limit yourself to Congressional races. Those are incredibly hard to win, especially for political outsiders. Run for parks commission, for library board, for school board, for town trusteeships, and for county offices. Run for water reclamation. You don't nee…

This sounds really appealing. How do you do this? How do I get started on running for water reclamation?

Try starting here:

https://www.runforoffice.org/

Get a couple of friends together, and just pick one of you to go out for something, and then work as a team to collect information and plan outreach.

Even if you fail, treat the whole thing as an information gathering exercise. Take notes and share them. The GOP is crazy good at picking up local elected office, and they've had lots of practice. This is how they got that practice. Anyone who thinks local office doesn't matter should figure out who their State Senator is and how many constituents they have, and then look at Congressional redistricting --- it's state leg. that created the system in which rural Republican votes count so much more than urban Democratic votes do.

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by [deleted] »

angry-hacker wrote: post #481
jowiar wrote: post #330

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For some reason I'm thinking of a parable that goes like: "First they came for the Nazis"... Oh wait, maybe not. Because when we finally got around to fighting Nazis it was good fucking riddance.

And Obama was the biggest nazi of all times, he created a spy machine that would have made gestapo jealous. Where was the outcry in the last 8 years. Some of you bigots voted for him twice!

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Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by maxnevermind »

facetube wrote: post #834
maxnevermind wrote: post #693

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I'm thinking about moving to Berlin, but a million of illegal economic migrants from middle east in Germany and Trump policy in the US regarding them make US much more attractive option

Are you referring to the families of refugees fleeing indiscriminate bombing and war?

Refugees are those who fleeing the war to neighbor regions or countries to get to safety. People who pay smugglers to get to rich countries because they can live better there are illegal economic migrants. It's not that we don't need to help but the fact that sponsoring anyone who claims he is a refugee is just plain wrong. Stop the war and spend resources more efficiently by helping rebuild the economy and not wasting it on a bunch of free riders.

Re: Time to Take a Stand

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Post by MicroBerto »

Can't wait to see what Altman writes when the voter fraud is investigated and it's over 3 million fraudulent votes.

We already know of 800,000 (http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/26/hillary-clinto...). Detroit was apparent. The rest will come easily.

What else is Altman wrong about??

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