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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by turtlesdown11 »

dewey wrote: post #536
btown wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

I’m sure it’s amazing in California or the US. So often I think how much better products would be if the people responsible would have to use them for a week outside of the happy path. Example: Taking the airport train instead of a private driver and realizing there’s no luggage racks, staying in a regular hotel room and realizing there’s no light in front of the mirror, only behind you. So many examples like that on…

> staying in a regular hotel room and realizing there’s no light in front of the mirror, only behind you.

I'll bite, what does this have to do with Apple Maps?

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Post by mpweiher »

voncheese wrote: post #148
pier25 wrote: post #117

John Ternus really did turn the Mac around. The last 5 or so years of the Intel era were a disaster. Hopefully he will be able to turn things around with software too.

Yeah and with long development, lead and change horizons that come with hardware, that's a super hard thing to do. Software is easier given the shorter cycles. Caveat is, the shorter cycles also benefit competitors.

One of the reasons software is harder is that people think it's easier.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by mpweiher »

Geee wrote: post #297
alsetmusic wrote: post #169

I think it's interesting that the handoff will be complete on Sept 1. That would mean Ternus will helm his first iPhone launch that month. Auspicious timing. Curious the math they calculated when landing on this date. Certainly tees him up for an early win if the products are well-received.

My guess is that they'll release something impressive in September, and they want to give Ternus an early win as you said. Maybe a new completely product or Vision Air.

Another iPhone mini...

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by oldnetguy »

j16sdiz wrote: post #528
oldnetguy wrote: post #49

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His legacy is he used Apple to help build China into a technological powerhouse at the expense of American workers. https://www.npr.org/sections/planet-money/2025/06/17/g-s1-72...

Can you say the same for tesla or cisco?

Not to the same scale but yes. At least there are Teslas still made here.

With Apple it's the scale of what was done.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by pornel »

tchalla wrote: post #39

> Under Cook’s leadership Apple has grown from a market capitalization of approximately $350 billion to $4 trillion, representing a more than 1,000% increase, and yearly revenue has nearly quadrupled, from $108 billion in fiscal year 2011 to more than $416 billion in fiscal year 2025. Quite successful.

He destroyed my trust in Apple in ways that can't be put in numbers.

This growth comes from rent seeking. Greedy fees and lock-in they can sustain due to control of the platform and cultivated duopoly.

Apple narrative around security is patronising and deceptive, used as an excuse for removing users' freedoms (by not letting users replace Apple's services with competing ones Apple protects users from their bad choices). Very conveniently the supposedly most innovative company that is great at UX can't do better than Vista.

Apple's response to pro-consumer laws was petty, vindictive, malicious compliance.

To me Apple morphed from having premium products with excellent integration to having cross-product lock-in that maximizes money extraction from users.

And then there's Cook sucking up to Trump with a golden turd to protect next quarter's revenues. This showed that Cook had no principles more important than profit.

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Post by user_7832 »

throawayonthe wrote: post #781
user_7832 wrote: post #685

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I don't intend to be a contrairian purely to be one, but Apple is the same company that (to paraphrase) wanted to "see Saurik cry". This being hackernews, I hope to be excused for siding with a white hat code-hacker over a trillion dollar corporate. (And that's not getting into all the other morally questionable stuff they've done.)

trying to find the context, saurik seemsto be Jay Freeman[0], known for Cydia[1]; i'm guessing apple was 'unhappy' about his work around software for jailbroken iphones, but nothing immediately popped up, what did they do? oh i guess it's from a court hearing[2] when his company was suing apple over app store monopoly ("... they are talking about an iOS update that, quote, broke Cydia Impactor. Where they said, it fe…

Yeah thanks, I think that's the right quote.

I think I found the original comment I had read (featuring a reply by saurik himself): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43853055

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by ghaff »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #827

I have been wanting this for Apple for a while. They are very “boring” when it comes to risk and pushing forward the way Steve Jobs did. I really think they have a lot of potential they are missing out on. I still hope they eventually sell server blades for macOS.

Xserve was their big explicit enterprise push. Blades as a whole ended up as something of a niche. Hyperconverged is probably where we've ended up from there for the most part but it's not a big slice of the market.

Apple's big win was that consumer basically became enterprise. There was lots of noise around formal BYOD but in many/most places it just happened whether IT was on-board or not.

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Post by [deleted] »

nottorp wrote: post #753
riazrizvi wrote: post #289

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Cook was a steward of Apple as an offshored manufacturing behemoth. I'm looking forward to where this reset goes. Hopefully better and American made products. The privacy focus is why Apple is dominant today, keep that up.

> Hopefully better and American made products. "Expensive for no good reason" products?

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