F-15E jet shot down over Iran • Hacker News Board

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:14 AM UTC

lejalv wrote: post #734

So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

Guidelines:

>Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

I guess this gets in as interesting new phenomenon?

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:19 AM UTC

tejohnso wrote: post #568

Impossible. Iran's army was already demolished weeks ago, and there's "nothing left". What did they take it down with, bb guns?

The whole thing is impressively disorganised going back to not having a clear objective or plan for the war.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:24 AM UTC

Revanche1367 wrote: post #795

zaelochi wrote: post #333

Average comments sentiment when an American is caught having killed a clerk during a robbery: hope they fry him on the chair Average comments sentiment when an American is caught while bombing bridges and elementary schools: poor thing hope they treat him well

The key difference (which I am sure you are aware of) is that the victims in your second scenario are foreign brown people. The comments would be very much like your first scenario if this was about Russians attacking even military targets in Ukraine for example.

American sentiment seems fine with killing invading Russians. I don't think it's a skin color thing that much.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by RobotToaster » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:28 AM UTC

asdff wrote: post #698

RobotToaster wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't seem like the most trustworthy source. >Established in May 2017 and funded by Saudi Arabia,[1][2][3][4][5][6] it actively promotes former Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the next ruler of Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International

If anything that seems like it would lean American in its bias. Saudi are our allies as is the family of the former Shah.

That was exactly my point. The Saud regime also hate Iran for being Shia.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by tim333 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:29 AM UTC

josefritzishere wrote: post #43

This is the dumbest, most pointless military conflict in American history. There is nothing plausible to win, but we can conceivably lose everything. A pyric victory is among the most favorable outcomes. We are led by corrupt imbeciles. I can only hope the outcome includes regime change for the U.S.

But people have stopped talking about the Epstein files. Win for the dear leader.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 9:45 AM UTC

metabagel wrote: post #797

jiggawatts wrote: post #603

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know why you’re being voted down for stating plain facts. If you know someone in town that regularly threatens you and your friends with death[1] and you see them buying a gun, you do something about it before they also get the bullets. Before replying please read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_latency Iran has been steadily decreasing their “breakout time” to levels that Israel and the US consid…

The JCPOA kept Iran from developing nuclear weapons. It was only the abrogation of this agreement by Trump which led Iran to resume enrichment of uranium.

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by bean469 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:01 AM UTC

tejohnso wrote: post #568

Impossible. Iran's army was already demolished weeks ago, and there's "nothing left". What did they take it down with, bb guns?

Since their military capacity is certainly completely demolished, they probably took it down by throwing rocks

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by watwut » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:04 AM UTC

hereme888 wrote: post #647

UncleOxidant wrote: post #608

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clueless? The US has been interfering in Iran (stuff like removing democratically elected prime minister) since 1953, at least.

The 1953 coup was ugly realpolitik, but the Islamic Republic's hostility began in 1979 (hostage crisis, embassy takeover, fatwas against the West). Iran has been the initiator of most modern conflict.

The hostility began in 1953 - too many Iranians hated shah and seen monarchy as oppressors put in by CIA. Even anti islamist Iranians were writing about it. And yes, monarchy was a vialent dictatorship.

Like yes, goverment put in by america wont be hostile to america. But its opponents will blame america for that goverment, because well, they are to blamr. And also, once it fails, all the suppressed anger goes out. And some more, because now america is well positioned to be generic scapegoat even for stuff it had not done.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by bean469 » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:06 AM UTC

zaelochi wrote: post #333

Average comments sentiment when an American is caught having killed a clerk during a robbery: hope they fry him on the chair Average comments sentiment when an American is caught while bombing bridges and elementary schools: poor thing hope they treat him well

Many people are very detached from the suffering of others

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Post by Muskoxworks » Sat, Apr 04, 2026, 10:11 AM UTC

When China or Russia manage to produce air defence that is truly a risk for US/Nato, it will truly change the power dynamics.