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Google details new 24-hour process to sideload unverified Android apps
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#832Random thought, but doesn't disabling developer mode turn off all of the changes in there?
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#833"Android is one of the most open systems I've ever seen. What makes Android great is it's literally designed from the ground up to be customised in a very powerful way." -- Sundar Pichai
Oh, how times have changed. And so many believed this and repeated it.
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#834A king wanted to test the complacency of his subjects. He put a toll on a bridge. There were some noises but eventually everyone got used to it. He slowly kept increasing the toll, which came with increasing noises which would all eventually subside. He decided to take it a step further. He proclaimed that anyone crossing the bridge will be slapped by one of his guards. This time the protests were stronger and getting bigger. He thought "thank God my populace has woken up". He went outside to meet the leaders of the protesters and asked why are they protesting. The leaders said: "you started taking toll, we said nothing, you kept increasing it, we said nothing. But with this new policy, there's only 2 guards delivering the slaps, leading to huge line ups. So we demand that you employ more guards at the bridge to ensure faster slaps and smooth flow of traffic."
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#835"Android is one of the most open systems I've ever seen. What makes Android great is it's literally designed from the ground up to be customised in a very powerful way." -- Sundar Pichai Oh, how times have changed. And so many believed this and repeated it.
Time to put pressure on manufacturers to move to something more open like graphene, or another community based project
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#836Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is immense pressure to stop online scams which are draining old people of their life savings. The whole flow from the article seems entirely based around letting power users install what they want while being able to break the flow of a scammer guiding a clueless person in to installing malware. It is promising that Google has avoided just turning off sideloading but still put measures in place to protect peopl…
Why can't a bank put a lock on large transfers or have an extra verification step? Or a cooldown period, so that if they see a large transfer from people above 60, let them go to a branch to verify/ack the transaction. Why is this the internet or operating systems problem to solve?
> Why is this the internet or operating systems problem to solve?
Exactly! I don't understand how account-draining transactions make it through, yet I get the third degree when I withdrawal a few thousand in cash to buy used equipment off craigslist.
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#837Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate this pop-up so much. I don’t even have Chrome installed on my phone. How about open up on the only browser I have installed… This kind of thing should be illegal. The default browser is the default for a reason, to avoid this kind of stuff. I think I’ve reported this as a bug to Google a couple times, in a couple different apps… as they do it in their other apps too. The only thing that bothers me more are the…
> This kind of thing should be illegal. That's a bit silly. Some people think pineapple doesn't belong on pizza, but that means you should avoid buying pineapple pizza, not outlaw it.
Google buys up all the pizza places in your town and stops selling anything but pineapple pizza. The delivery driver also stays and watches to make sure you don't take the pineapple off and if you do, you're banned from buying Google Pizza anymore. It's a long drive to find a pizza place that isn't owned by Google.
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#838Earlier quoted context omitted.
An annoying extension of this is opening a Google maps link on mobile. It always prompts to open Google Maps (the app) no matter what. If you click no, its bugs the fuck out and opens an App Store link. If you click yes, even if you have Google Maps installed, it bugs the fuck out and opens an app store link. In neither case will it properly show the location on a first attempt. It's been like this for years. I'd ask…
I think this is an Apple bug. I’ve seen it with non-Google apps too. I’m not sure what causes it, but I believe sometimes you can long tap the link and select the correct option. I believe the behavior where you say no and it still tries to open the app is because the default behavior on Google Maps links is to open Google Maps.
This happens to me now on Android. It either wants to download google maps or if I try to open in browser, it just repeatedly refresh loops before drawing anything. But not always possible it seems to get the address by inspecting the link
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#839Earlier quoted context omitted.
Switching to an iPhone will put you in an even worse walled garden that respects you even less. Even simple things like setting your default navigation app in iOS are gated behind moving to the EU.
True, but the point is, once you've sucked it up and given up, you may as well get other benefits back in exchange for turning tail. And the iPhone is unfortunately THE primary platform most applications develop for. Personally, I am willing to just ditch the Android, get an iPhone as a "contact- and banking-only" device, and drag with me some sort of small computer everywhere. I've already dragged a linux retroconso…
I also had a similar thought after these announcements. The main issue is seamless synching that syncthing provides between Linux and Android. There are alternatives like Mobius Sync etc but what I've heard is that they do app-specific sync, not like e.g., sync all my files in this folder X in Linux to a folder Y on iPhone. I'm not an iPhone user but this has always been the main hurdle for me to switch over despite the increasingly locking down of Android.
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#840The part in the flow where you select between allowing app installs for 7 days or forever is a glimpse into the future. That toggle shows the thought process that's going on at Google. I can bet that a few versions down the line, the "Not recommended" option of allowing installs indefinitely will become so not recommended that they'll remove it outright. Then shrink the 7 day window to 3 days or less. Or only give us…
what's your solution to combat scammers?
Are scammers using sideloaded apps when they can use whatever remote connexion the apps in the store allow ?
I think a big warning in red "Warning :If you don't personally know the person asking you to install this app, you are getting scammed. No legitimate business or Institution will ask you to install this app"