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Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by UltraSane »

bonsai_spool wrote: post #572
UltraSane wrote: post #440

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Approximately 370,000 Hmong Americans live in the U.S. largely due to their alliance with the CIA during the Vietnam war.

> Approximately 370,000 Hmong Americans live in the U.S. largely due to their alliance with the CIA during the Vietnam war. Correct, but how does this invalidate OP’s assertion? Are you saying that there are no collaborators who were left behind in Vietnam after supporting the US? If I recall correctly, even getting the Hmong here was a political lift that some opposed

It contradicts his assertion that the US abandons allies.

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Post by koolala »

wqaatwt wrote: post #639
koolala wrote: post #487

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Why can't you be at war without officially declaring it? We have had lots of wars not declared by congress. Korean War, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, Iraq. This seems like a weird way to think.

Explicit authorization is still required even if there there is no explicit declaration of war. The caveat being that the president only needs to get the approval of congress after 60 days. And of course Obama established a precedent with his intervention in Libya which weakened this even more…

Being required legally doesn't change the actual fact of war. Sure it is breaking the law. I don't see how Libya is the one in the long list to set this precedent of illegally non-declared war.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by Kinrany »

nerdyadventurer wrote: post #616
dotancohen wrote: post #600

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Are you suggesting that the US should appease Muslim ideology, under threat of terror?

This is not about Muslim idealogy at all, it is US want to play god on who to have nukes or not. Similar to Libiya WMD.

Men have been trying to decide who's allowed to own big sticks forever, there's no "playing god" involved

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by FireBeyond »

simianparrot wrote: post #768
gamblor956 wrote: post #347

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Parent is referring to the same president as the grandparent... Trump has murdered 2 innocent U.S. citizens so far, and was president when COVID started. Trump's response to COVID was part of why he lost the 2020 election.

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By your logic, Khamenei probably hasn't murdered anyone either, right? What a pitiful "argument".

While other Presidents would go as far as putting signs saying "the buck stops here" on the Resolute Desk, the current President's sign would say "the buck stops anywhere but here".

Let's also see what happens with New Mexico's investigation of the Zorro Ranch...

Self defense, my ass. Neither situation posed ANY credible threat to those agents, despite what ICE Barbie got up and said in front of a podium twenty minutes after the event.

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Post by [deleted] »

vasco wrote: post #322
baxtr wrote: post #162

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You want your story to be true so badly you ignore counter examples? You should consider conformation bias.

What story? Iraq is ruled by ISIS and Syria is ruled by a dude who's goal was to institute Sharia or ISIS v2. Those were both countries in the region where US intervention toppled a dictator and now is how it is.

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Post by FireBeyond »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #358
leptons wrote: post #147

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He sure does act like a dictator, ruling by executive order. He sent the US military to operate on US soil, by executive order... so yes, he is very much a dictator right now.

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"Turn over your state's voter information to the Federal Government for ... reasons, or we'll keep up the ICE raids in your cities that have already led to death and injuries" would be one simple example. Oppression... or extortion... or both.

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Post by markus_zhang »

lm28469 wrote: post #780
markus_zhang wrote: post #528

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The "good" part is that Sunni Muslims probably won't have the same feeling, or do they? But I agree with the assessment. I'd definitely avoid large public events. Darn the world is becoming more and more chaotic and we are just waiting for China to put up the last piece to make it into 19th Europe.

Why do you bring up China here? Trump has done more harm to the west in 10 years than China in the last century

No I'm trying to say, when China decides to copy the behavior of US, especially when her economy turns downwards again, will be the last piece of the puzzle (that shows up the end of the old world).

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Post by FireBeyond »

simon666 wrote: post #679
wvlia5 wrote: post #666

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Because he would be senile.

Being of an advanced age does not necessitate becoming senile. Do you have evidence that the Ayatollah was senile or trending in that direction?

I'd say, too, that judging by the current President's speeches, there's probably good evidence towards him being or becoming senile/demented.

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Post by PolygonSheep »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #242

What country in the Middle East has actually gotten better after removal of a bad status quo, in the last 26 years? I really can’t think of any. Is even Iraq considered a success?

> I really can’t think of any. Is even Iraq considered a success?

It was for Netanyahu, and that's the important thing here.

Re: Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is killed in Israeli strike, ending 36-year rule

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Post by [deleted] »

stickfigure wrote: post #813
delichon wrote: post #656

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The cultural gulf between left and right in the US is expanding rather than being assimilated or adapting. There is nothing stopping the same thing from happening between immigrants and natives in the EU. Both cases involve fundamentaly irecconcilable values, and it just depends on which values prove more viral.

I'm not sure the left/right cultural gulf will last beyond Trump. I'm not even sure it's still alive now, with Trump's approval ratings in the toilet. The US political system takes time to cycle and isn't on the same schedule as the political pendulum.

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