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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

ben_w wrote: post #752
GoblinSlayer wrote: post #738

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Propaganda works when it's the only source of information. This situation is created by censorship, especially in internets, where you don't need to walk to open a distant site.

Propaganda * also * works when it's the main source of information. This can be done in many ways. One way is simple repetition of the exact same thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect Another is to have many different lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_the_zone and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood Taking a step back, there is another way for propaganda to function that d…

Your links give examples of campaigns that happened, but didn't quite work. You think the problem is their very happening? And the very fact that you know about child-eating devil-worshiping lizards from Alpha Ceti 5 shows that an opinion is available no matter what propaganda you use against it as long as it's not censored. You can suppress it only by censorship, not by propaganda. In any case using shitposting sites as a source of information is tricky, journalism isn't that bad yet.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by pickleglitch »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #691
guerrilla wrote: post #612

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There has never been a leftist government in the US. You seem a bit lost.

> There has never been a leftist government in the US. You seem a bit lost. I'll give you three examples of the dems sliding left. Biden did make sure all the borders were wide open and american forklifts, operated by americans, have been used to facilitate the mass migration of millions and millions of non-US citizens into the US. Under the same government there have been politicians passing laws so that there'd be…

>I don't think anyone disputes that dems have been slanting towards the left more and more.

Anyone, except actual leftists. Dem leadership hates Mamdani. The only reason you believe the Dems are left-wing is because corporate media propaganda is highly effective.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by jayGlow »

bluescrn wrote: post #725
dirasieb wrote: post #511

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https://archive.ph/bdEqK >>Police make 30 arrests a day for offensive online messages >The police are making more than 30 arrests a day over offensive posts on social media and other platforms. >Thousands of people are being detained and questioned for sending messages that cause “annoyance”, “inconvenience” or “anxiety” to others via the internet, telephone or mail. >Custody data obtained by The Times shows that off…

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it's not censorship if i disagree with the people being silenced.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by user205738 »

lII1lIlI11ll wrote: post #685
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #481

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You don't have to worry about projecting truth. The truth gets through. This is about projecting lies.

> You don't have to worry about projecting truth. The truth gets through. This is about projecting lies. I wouldn't be so sure. Significant part of Russian population believes that they are purging Ukraine of evil nazis, for example. Or that WW2 started on 22 June 1941.

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Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by Sophira »

cookiengineer wrote: post #313
Aurornis wrote: post #118

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> Almost 80% of communications go through a data center in Northern VA Nobody who understands the scale of the internet could possibly believe this is true. Routing internet traffic through a geographical location would increase ping times by a noticeable amount. Even sending traffic from around the world to a datacenter in VA would require an amount of infrastructure multiple times larger than the internet itself to…

> Nobody who understands the scale of the internet could possibly believe this is true. Neither would anybody have believed that 8 out of 10 hard drive chips can contain any rootkits. Yet, here we are, and the insanity of it is that we've found lots of malware attributed to EQGRP, and the Snowden leaks (from the perspective of Booz Allen) have confirmed it. You should read up on quantum routing. They don't have to ro…

> Neither would anybody have believed that 8 out of 10 hard drive chips can contain any rootkits. Yet, here we are

I haven't heard this before. Do you have any links I can read on this?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

rtkwe wrote: post #306
metadat wrote: post #197

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And how useful would this information be? srcIP:port_dstIP:port pairs with almost all traffic encrypted. Pretty boring from a sigint pov. Instagram, YouTube, misc Web traffic, and torrents, with a side of minutae. I'm certain the three letter agencies yearn for the days before letsencrypt was de facto.

There is the small possibility that the NSA has found cracks in some of the popular cyphers and could actually make sense of the encrypted data. It's not completely out of the question, their cryptanalysis has been shown to be ahead of the public best efforts in the past. They demonstrated it back in the 70s with DES S-boxes hardening them against a technique no one publicly knew about until the 80s.

What the point if they can have decrypted data from cloudflare?

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by deadbabe »

pousada wrote: post #789
Waterluvian wrote: post #41

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It’s a clear way to project soft power: make sure your message and culture can get through.

So far the current admin has been very successful in obliterating all the soft power the US built up through the decades.

I have no idea why they would do this, but I often wonder if maybe soft power becomes less valuable in a world where more countries are able to empower themselves on their own. Perhaps soft power itself is only valuable as long as this asymmetry is sustained. Otherwise, it’s all about hard power.

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

iso1631 wrote: post #702
NGRhodes wrote: post #205

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i used to work, 15 years ago, on a (permissive, not covert) monitoring service for a UK national public service, the NHS spine core. We used switches to mirror ports and capture traffic in promisciouse mode on a few dozen servers split across a few datacentres that all the traffic went througg. We had certs installed to decode https. We could get enough hardware to do this step easily, but fast enough storage was an…

You can only decode those https certificates if you are mitming them (and have a compromised certificate) A copy of the certificate and private keys won't help thanks to the magic of Diffie–Hellman, you can't passively (assuming you haven't got a practical quantum computer) read the stream Your company will have deployed root certificates to devices and run as a MITM. This is standard corporate firewall behaviour.

It's also possible to generate ephemeral keys deterministically, e.g. key=hash(escrow, sslrandom).

Re: US plans online portal to bypass content bans in Europe and elsewhere

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Post by realo »

snowpid wrote: post #710
ben_w wrote: post #700

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> Its like showing truth to MAGA people. Most wont accept it. Could be. That was the other example I was considering using besides Yeltsin, but I figured it would immediately get met with "no u" responses from those who, as you say, won't accept it. That makes for boring conversations where I learn nothing.

see it this way. Yelzin's reaction was very surprising. You can see how other communist burocrats reacted to facts. Even in democratic societies politicians don't change their beliefs so fast (maybe most human?). But luckily we can vote them out so this is not a big problem.

Somehow I feel "we can vote them out" is going to be thoroughly tested in the next US elections.

Good luck, Earthlings ...

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