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Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by antod »

BrenBarn wrote: post #597
DrewADesign wrote: post #388

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My very vibes-based take is that setting up home servers is the dad jeans of tech hobbies. It's kind of arresting how bewildered many young people are when confronted with anything below the UI layer. I think peak tech savviness happened a bit younger than me: maybe mid-late millennial. After that you start getting into the iPad-from-birth generation for whom tech was rarely a challenge. Tech savviness among young fo…

This is my impression as well. From what I've seen, many Gen Z people only loosely even think in terms of things like "files". They are used to integrations where everything just lives on some website or in a Google app and the way you locate things is by searching.

I'm also noticing another trend with my 16yr old daughter and her friends. They are craving old school offline experiences. They have all dragged out the parents and relatives old music collections, cruising second hand shops for old CDs etc. when they visit others houses they are checking out each other's household book and music collections.

She recently got a cheap digital camera with no screen and just a shutter button and and plain old viewfinder. The idea is that like the old days you don't know what you took a photo of until (a bit like getting the film developed) you plug the SD card into a computer and have a look.

I think she'd get a kick out of ripping CDs and ditching Spotify. I can teach her all about files and filesystems then haha.

My 19yr old son doesn't follow the same old school stuff, but he kinda shunned social media from the beginning.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by silexia »

Aurornis wrote: post #163
senthil_rajasek wrote: post #43

I think the author intended the title to be, "Google Ads is dead, Where do I promote my business now?" When I hear "Google" I assume search, oof (sigh of relief). They mention running ads on tiktok or instagram but no mention of youtube ads... Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful. So my next steps would be, Reddit Ads Youtube Ads Instagram Ads Increase…

> Also, In my own experience for my business ( also entertainment) I have found reddit ads to be useful. Reddit is very hit or miss depending on your target audience. Depending on your Reddit target audience, a lot of people could have adblock installed. They might be loyal to communities that have approved vendor lists where everyone parrots the same vendor recommendations back and forth in every thread, so not bein…

I run a large marketing agency and Reddit is terrible for advertising across most verticals.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by piskov »

tensor wrote: post #609
piskov wrote: post #247

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Index is one thing, great search over it is another. A competitive, general-purpose web search engine with its own full index is _brutally_ hard and expensive. This is the reason there are only a few world-class like russian yandex, chinese baidu (to not state the obvious names like google).

They already have world class search technology. In terms of indexing they only need to index the most important content. There is so much slop now and it doesn't matter at all if that is indexed. IMO their strategy of focusing on smaller sites with human curated content is correct. They can make some deals to index some of the big walled gardens and that's pretty much world class right now. What do you think a site…

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Though my gut tells me the probability of their 100% own full-blown search is very-very low.

From the current point in time few people are in the market for a paid privacy focused search.

Most of the time I spend on kagi this year is a glorified bookmark to imdb, wiki, and what have you: around 700 queries per month, which is basically the same as I have in chatgpt according to yearly stats.

But I will continue be a paid Kagi user.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by mchaver »

hermitcrab wrote: post #188
fairity wrote: post #125

Surprised to see this upvoted because the takeaway is completely incorrect, and based on the anecdotal evidence of one advertiser. As someone who spends seven figures every month on Google ads, what’s much more likely to be happening here is that the individual advertiser is either getting outcompeted or they’re executing ads poorly. Google ads revenue in the US continues to grow every quarter. And, since advertisers…

I run a small software business and I know various other people who run small software businesses. We are all pretty much agreed that that Google Ads have been less and less profitable, year or year. Most of us have now given up on PPC ads.

As a small software business, do you have other approaches to ads?

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Post by malcolmxxx »

ethagknight wrote: post #568
cookiengineer wrote: post #278

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I had a very interesting discussion with a friend today, where I was talking to her about the /r/golang thread about Rob Pike's comments to OpenAI and how the thread was full of bots talking with other bots. No idea why the density of bots was so high in that thread, it was kind of absurd to see. Then she said: "I know nobody that comments on online forums. Nobody would ever comment to strangers on the internet. It's…

I never tell people I comment online. No one I know knows my Reddit username (as far as I know…). Few of my friends even know what HN is.

Keybase wants to be that hub. Well, it can't be, sir.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by fuzztester »

fuzztester wrote: post #477
acjohnson55 wrote: post #431

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IMO, their biggest problem was that they made a product that was terminally uncool.

Even worse was Google Wave. Totally unusable from the start, which is when I tried it, due to all the hype (by them) about it. Probably too JavaScript-heavy, was the reason, I think, back then. I remember reading reports confirming my guess, at the time. I was on an average machine. I bet the Google devs had quite more powerful ones, and in their infinite wisdom (not!), did not trouble to test, or even think of testi…

Downvoters surely work for, or are asscolytes of $GOOG, heh. More slaves they!

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Post by acjohnson55 »

fuzztester wrote: post #477
acjohnson55 wrote: post #431

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IMO, their biggest problem was that they made a product that was terminally uncool.

Even worse was Google Wave. Totally unusable from the start, which is when I tried it, due to all the hype (by them) about it. Probably too JavaScript-heavy, was the reason, I think, back then. I remember reading reports confirming my guess, at the time. I was on an average machine. I bet the Google devs had quite more powerful ones, and in their infinite wisdom (not!), did not trouble to test, or even think of testi…

Google Wave worked fine for me, as I recall. I remember being really impressed on one level, but I also couldn't figure out what to actually use it for.

A couple weeks ago, I thought about diving back into demos to reacquaint myself with it. It's possible that it was ahead of its time. Or maybe it was a solution in search of a problem.

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Post by taneq »

MonkeyClub wrote: post #704
jrflowers wrote: post #678

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> We’re all in the same, but different, shit. Can you elaborate on other cases where the words “different” and “same” are interchangeable?

"Same difference" /s

Same same, only different, but still same, but still different.

Re: Google is dead. Where do we go now?

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Post by lrvick »

It is not just Google Ads that are dead. Advertising in general, is dead.

No one wants this shit and no matter where you go, people will find a way to block your ads or leave the platforms they cannot easily block ads in.

As soon as you advertisers moved to the internet, you gave users the power to delete you, so thanks for that.

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