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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.

Should just do away with the system entirely.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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The Indian constitution too gives the President the power to pardon someone convicted. However, the Supreme Court has since clarified that this power is not absolute, and the court can subject it to a judicial review. ( https://compass.rauias.com/current-affairs/pardoning-powers-... ).

You're comparing our (flawed) democracy with a fake democracy.

Parent poster was considering ways on how to limit abuse of a certain political power, and I thought they may be interested on how other countries handle it. (Not though that I am not sure our indian approach is necessarily right - the Supreme Court of India is considering the Presidential powers of pardon only as a remedy to some judicial injustice / miscarriage. But sometimes there can be a political reason too, to pardon somebody. For example, someone cited the Lincoln example of pardoning the confederates. Legally, that may not be sound (ignoring crimes committed by them) but politically such things may be necessary to heal a society and create politically stability. And in such cases, the judiciary is not the right institution to make a judgement call on whether a political pardon was right or not.)

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

#833

There should be a limit on the number of pardons a president can do during their tenure so that they have to at least think a bit before using it. It is a very powerful tool that actually allows a last resort. But this kind of egregious abuse of it's power means it needs to be kept in check.

Add this to the list of abuses this admin has done. This is just one of the legal ones.

As opposed to the previous President? Pardon abuse is not something Trump invented.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

It has. But the breadth and depth of how they're being used by this one in particular is really far, far worse than other recent ones of both parties.

Wide pardoning with autopen was both heavy and illegal

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

"boooooth siiiiiiides" screamed the reactionary centrist.

Yes.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Biden promised not to pardon his son and then pardoned his son. And not simply pardoned. Pardoned also for crimes not yet discovered

Wasn't that because there was a high chance of trump going after biden's son when he was in power, making up whatever charges he needed just as a power play?

no one should be above the law.

Also it's not like the democrat did not weaponize the justice to put trump in jail for 4 consecutive years.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism Sounds reasonable. This is ok for Trump to do because of Hunter Biden.

The Hunter Biden pardon was necessary because it was clear that despite his admission of guilt, he was not going to receive a fair punishment. The Republican party leadership was very open in expressing their intentions for him, and had _already_ circumvented the judicial system to give him cruel and unusual punishment.

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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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It doesn't really matter who is more egregious, but IMO a country's leader pardoning his own family members is about as banana republic as it gets.

> IMO a country's leader pardoning his own family members is about as banana republic as it gets. That is until you see what's currently happening, the President personally directing the DOJ to arrest his political enemies, of which Biden and his family are considered to be primary antagonists (remember they labelled them the "Biden crime family" and chanted "lock them up"). That is the most banana republic as it get…

> the President personally directing the DOJ to arrest his political enemies

They tried to put true in jail for 4 years, and kept saying he is a Nazi so people would try to shoot him. I don't think it's so different

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

That might be true, but CZ is a good candidate for a pardon. Did you know before Gensler went after him at the SEC he asked CZ for a job and was rejected?
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